|Jan-27-09|| ||shr0pshire: I hope Kamsky isn't planning on using this against Topalov. :( Maybe he is prepping other openings, I hope.|
|Jan-27-09|| ||SniperOnG7: This is one of the oddest Berlin games I've seen, don't you all agree?|
|Jan-27-09|| ||Udit Narayan: Maybe Kamsky is pulling a <Bilbao> =)|
|Jan-27-09|| ||roughstuff: <SniperOnG7: This is one of the oddest Berlin games I've seen, don't you all agree?> I don't understand many of the moves in this game..this definitley GM calibre. Aronian seems to play some wierd moves such as 43... Bg7 instead of Nxa4 also what's the point of 48...a4!!|
|Jan-27-09|| ||parmetd: after this I think kamsky will learn to respect the berlin.|
|Jan-27-09|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: I'm just as puzzled as everyone else. I don't know if allowing Aronian to get the Queens off the board so early is such a good idea. I'd play 3.Bc4 and 4.d3 and eventually adopt a Ruy Lopez style formation with c2-c3 and Bc4-b3-c2.|
|Jan-27-09|| ||shintaro go: This was lost in the middlegame|
|Jan-27-09|| ||whiteshark: The Berlin is really tough as old boots.|
|Jan-28-09|| ||Honza Cervenka: <Aronian seems to play some wierd moves such as 43... Bg7 instead of Nxa4> At first glance and without comp's assistence I would say that 43...Nxa4 44.Ne6 can be the reason here.|
|Jan-28-09|| ||pikket: Well, certainly after the useless 38.h5, White has lost most of his patiently built-up advantage. Perhaps 38. fd5 was a better try.|
|Jan-28-09|| ||ajile: White just lets Black finish development and get his king to safety on the q-side.|
Also why not 31.Rd7 for White? White can double rooks on the d file next with Rad1.
|Jan-28-09|| ||Honza Cervenka: <Honza Cervenka: <Aronian seems to play some wierd moves such as 43... Bg7 instead of Nxa4> At first glance and without comp's assistence I would say that 43...Nxa4 44.Ne6 can be the reason here.>|
Well, it is clear that Aronian avoided 43...Nxa4 because he was not sure about the outcome of 44.Ne6 which is the only reasonable move of white here anyway. But there was probably no need to be afraid as 43...Nxa4 44.Ne6 Nb2! 45.Rd4 a4! 46.Nd8+ Kc8 looks like an easy win for black.
|Jan-28-09|| ||MarbleSkull: roughstuff: I'm no GM, nowhere close, but it seems 48. a4 threatens 49. Bb2 followed by 50. a3, which is why white went 49. Ra2 to prevent it.|
58. Rf8 is a real beauty, very Petrosianish.
|Jan-29-09|| ||arsen387: don't go for early Q exchange against Aronian, at least in this year's Corus :) Already Aronian vs Adams, 2009 and Aronian vs Movsesian, 2009 are a good proof.|
|Jan-29-09|| ||arsen387: <The third decisive game was Aronian’s win over Kamsky. The Armenian played the Berlin wall, and after the game said that he likes playing this variation when he is in a winning mood. “The only way to win is to give your opponent a chance to win“ -- Levon remarked>|
|Jan-29-09|| ||Eyal: <Honza Cervenka: Well, it is clear that Aronian avoided 43...Nxa4 because he was not sure about the outcome of 44.Ne6 which is the only reasonable move of white here anyway. But there was probably no need to be afraid as 43...Nxa4 44.Ne6 Nb2! 45.Rd4 a4! 46.Nd8+ Kc8 looks like an easy win for black.>|
Another possibility is 43...Nxa4 44.Ne6 Nb2 45.Rd2 Nxc4 46.Rd8 (now a4 doesn't win so easily, because the black knight is not controlling d1, but it's still good enough - and so is probably Bg7 as well) 46...a4 47.Nxf8 a3 48.Ne6 Nd6 (48...a2? 49.Rd1) 49.Rg8 Rxe6 (49...a2? 50.Nd8+ Ka6 [otherwise White has a perpetual] 51.Nxf7 Ka7 [51...a1=Q? 52.Ra8+] 52.Nxd6 cxd6 53.Nd5) 50.fxe6 a2 (50...Re7 51.Rb8+! Kxb8 52.Nd7+ Rxd7 53.exd7) 51.exf7 Nxf7 52.Rg7 a1=Q 53.Rxf7 Qf1+ 54.Ke5 (54.Kg3 Qd3+ 55.Kg2 Qc2+ 56.Bf2 Qg6) 54...Qh3.
Luckily for Aronian, Kamsky responded with a mistake of his own (44.Nh5?) - after 44.Ne6! Nxe6+ (44...Nxa4 45.Nd8+) 45.fxe6 Rxe6 46.Kf5 Rfxf6+ 47.Bxf6 Rxf6+ 48.Ke4 White might be able to draw.
The regrouping idea Ka7-Ba6-Bb7 executed by Aronian on moves 29-32, to increase the effectiveness of Black's pieces, was very nice.
|Jun-20-11|| ||hedgeh0g: In an interview with Aronian, he said that while he was pretty sure 43...Nxa4 was winning, he didn't feel the need to enter unnecessary complications, when the simple 43...Bg7 ensured he would get a superior endgame where his opponent would at best be grovelling for a draw.|
Goes to show the value today's top players give to the initiative.