|Jan-28-09|| ||butcher123: first!
|Jan-28-09|| ||hedgeh0g: second! (lawl)|
|Jan-28-09|| ||keypusher: looks like a very fine, smooth game by Aronian.|
|Jan-28-09|| ||shr0pshire: Castling queenside was a really good move by Aronian. My first instinct would be to go kingside, as seems like at times second nature in the Catalan. |
But going queen seems to be the only way to give himself the win in the endgame. Well done.
|Jan-28-09|| ||SEANESS: I can not beleive that there are still retards like above that still do the First/Second crap. I mean what the hell is that?|
|Jan-28-09|| ||Whack8888: Reminds me of a Rubenstein game, though that was against the Tarrash Defense (I believe, maybe it was the Catalan too) where White gives up the bishop to shatter blacks pawns and then goes to work on them.|
|Jan-28-09|| ||beenthere240: I don't get 37...Ra5. Was black trying to win?|
|Jan-28-09|| ||beenthere240: Rubenstein? Baloney -- IMO.
The more I look at this, the more I think Adams just threw the game away wih an absurd attack starting with 37...Ra5?? If he retreats his king -- 37....Kf8, how can white make progress? It's getting close to a draw by repetition.
|Jan-28-09|| ||keypusher: <Whack8888>
Rubinstein vs Marshall, 1912
|Jan-28-09|| ||euripides: <beenthere> If <37...Kf8> 38.Rgc4 I don't see how Black avoids dropping a pawn e.g. 38...Rd5 39.e4 Rh5 40.f4 (threatening e5) g5 41.Rxc5 or 38...Rc6 39.b4.|
|Jan-28-09|| ||beenthere240: <euripides> Thanks! completely over my head. So I guess 37. Rg4 was designed to either get black's king away from the defense of the c(5) a pawn OR [as in the game] to encourage black to abandon his pawns in hopes of a wild attack leading to a perpetual check. 37. R(a)c4 would be premature because of 37... Rc6 and the king can defend the c pawn after b4.
Did I get that right at least? ;-)|
|Jan-28-09|| ||Eyal: <beenthere240> Yeah, I think you got that right... 37...Ra5 was actually quite a good idea, under the circumstances, to generate some active counterplay and 40...Rdd2 instead of Rxe2 might have given Adams drawing chances.|
The thing that happened to Black's pawn structure in this game shows there's a reason why 9...Bd7, rather than Adams' a6, is the usual reply in this line to the (pretty rare) 9.Nc3.
|Jan-28-09|| ||euripides: <beenthere> Yes, Aronian is pulling the black king around from move 30 onwards (of course move 27-28 are a waste of time or designed to gain time on the clock) and he also makes time to get his own king to c2 to stop Rd1 at some point.|
|Jan-29-09|| ||MarbleSkull: That endgame is a thing of beauty. Why do people keep trading Aronian's Queen? He seems quite proficient without it...|
|Jan-29-09|| ||Poisonpawns: I felt that Adams played very badly strategically.After 13.Qc4 White has exactly what he wants in the catalan,black has a bishop and a horrible queenside pawn structure.Black has Zero chances from this position to win except a major blunder from white,and also,the draw is very hard for black to achieve.After 26..fxe6 Blacks only positive is gone:his Bishop.My Question for Adams; As a 2700 level player why would you play this horrible line as black?My guess is that you were unprepared for the Catalan.|
|Jan-29-09|| ||Eyal: Aronian's press conference: http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/c...|
He's critical of Adams' avoidance of Bd7 on moves 9-10, and also of the queen exchange, which accentuates White's positional advantage. He also thinks 18...exd4 would have been a better try for Black, and gives 19.Nc5 Re8 - he doesn't like 19.Rhd1 because of 19...d3. [It seems, however, that 19.[Nc5] Rb5 might be better for Black in this line, whereas 19...Re8 20.a3 Rb5 21.b4 is very good for White]
He mentions that in case of 22...Rfb8? White can simply play 23.dxe5 because of the mate threat on the back rank. Around moves 30-31 he gets a bit confused with the move order and says something like "The moves don't really matter, the position is just very unpleasant for Black"... he's pleased with 35.Ra4 which prepares Ra7, winning the c-pawn, in case Black goes for the exchange of one pair of rooks with 35...Rd2+.
|Jan-29-09|| ||beenthere240: 36. Kc2 also makes the pawn lever b4 possible.|
|Jan-29-09|| ||Ychromosome: It's interesting that black ends up with doubled, isolated c-pawns blockaded by a knight when it's usually white that ends up with this problem.|
|Jan-29-09|| ||champsylove: For " Spidey Adams to lose a close positional game is rare, he is no slouch. This does show us what a smooth operator Aronian is.|
|Jan-29-09|| ||beenthere240: The idea that this game is won positionally for white after 12. Bxc6 is scary. It's also scary to see the ruthless precision of Aronian when I play the game over. The knight is headed for the blockade on c4 and there's nothing black can do to stop it. At least that I can see.|
|Jan-29-09|| ||freeman8201: 17. 0-0-0!?|
|Jan-30-09|| ||shintaro go: You can see elements of Kramnik's play in this game. Early Queen exchange, minor advantage in the middlegame, passed pawn in the Queenside. Simple. Efficient. 1-0.|
|Mar-02-09|| ||norcist: i have in several places seen adam's opening choice criticized. But as another kibitzer said above after 9...Bd7 blacks prospects are, statistically, quite good.|