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Veselin Topalov vs Gata Kamsky
"A Sharp Tie" (game of the day May-06-2011)
Topalov - Kamsky Candidates Final (2009), Sofia BUL, rd 1, Feb-17
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange. Classical Variation (D86)  ·  1/2-1/2


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Feb-17-09  attack and destroy: Yes, he is good when commenting the game. Just half of his posts were about cricket, Kamsky's father, Topalov's second, FIDE, legitimacy of this match, etc. Some of you may be interested in his opinions on this subjects. Fair enough. He has a page to post his views about them. For this mach he was hired to comment the games and not to bother us with his ego problems. I will not write a single post criticizing Short tomorrow if he does stick only to the stuff he was hired to do. Hope we see another good game tomorrow.
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  rogge: <I will not write a single post>

I wish.

Feb-17-09  attack and destroy: It depends on Short's behavior tomorrow. If he restraines himself you may have your wish fulfilled.
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  Jim Bartle: I for one get a kick out of a lot of the comments, even if not directly related to the game. And where did this idea arise that he's some sort of hired hand?
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  square dance: <attack and destroy> i find it extremely odd that you feel its your moral duty to keep nigel's supposed "ego problems" in check. maybe you're projecting.
Feb-17-09  attack and destroy: <square dance> Maybe:) Anyway, I hope for the Anand - Kamsky/Topalov match <CG> will hire another GM to comment. Someone who doesn't have an issue with the players.
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  Marmot PFL: The cricket talk bores me, the rest is at least related topics.
Feb-17-09  sheaf: I am sure that none of the comments were outside chessgames guidelines..and besides he did share a lot of very interesting insights and refutals..why would u not allow a few comments which are could be boring but certainly not offensive..and his humor was also, although a bit too sarcastic at times, but not tasteless at all !!!..most importantly ..its not as if short is such a starving poor soul that he needs hard earned chessgames dollars for his survival..he tried to be as entertaining funny yet informative as possible..maybe some people dont have a taste..

also note that he is a normal chessgames premium member as well..he is free to post whatever fits the chessgames guidelines !!! why single him out and attack him so vociferously..!!you may not like NS as a person..and i am sure u wudnt be alone..but this was completely uncalled for..

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  Jim Bartle: It isn't as if he missed a mate or a queen sacrifice while focusing on how many wickets or overs or whatever they're called.

Or maybe we should ask him to make all his comments in Informant notation. That would be thrilling.

Feb-17-09  whiskeyrebel: I strongly suspect that GM Short has been hired to comment freely as he pleases. It's annoying to see apparent blowhards with an ulterior motive try to micromanage him under the guise of purely personal principles. I don't always agree with GM Short, but he's more exciting to follow than any number of comparatively dull, titled masters they could have hired to rattle off lines blandly. At any rate, even if he had started ranting about unrelated matters (and I thought he held back) it's between him and the CG.Com management who hired him.
Feb-17-09  sheaf: those who have followed ICC fm..I did when i was a member..*as u might suspect ran out of money ;-)*..MIG and Gms christiansen et al ..they at times talk about restaurants in chicago !!..and so many unrelated things..u cant even choose to ignore an what is wrong with this..he is talking about chess and in the meanwhile, when nothing is happening on the board he says things that he likes..sitting there for over 4 hours analyzing the game is not as easy as it sound...he was here for almost 3 and a half hrs..commenting..!! thats isnt all that easy when ur comments will be measured by everybody including resident experts..
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  AnalyzeThis: <16...f6?! disturbs the king side pawns without necessity. An alternative is 16...Nc6. >

I don't agree with this. If white is permitted to get e5 before f6, he'll have a clear advantage.

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  JointheArmy: <Nigel Short><The drawback, of course, is that it leaves the d-pawn hanging (but therefore is the sort of move that Veselin Rybka Topalov is likely to miss).>

I believe we have a new nickname for Topalov. Now we need one for Danailov.

Feb-17-09  attack and destroy: <whiskeyrebel> Short to comment Kamsky's or Topalov's match is like Korchnoi to comment Karpov's match. Well, maybe very entertaining for people who like tabloid kind of journalism.

I rest my case.

Lets enjoy the match. I can survive Short for a week or so.

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  square dance: <attack and destroy> its different because short probably has about an equal amount of dislike for kamsky and topanailov.
Feb-17-09  PinnedPiece: <whiskeyrebel: It's annoying to see apparent blowhards with an ulterior motive try to micromanage him under the guise of purely personal principles.>

Hear hear! I nominate you for "Sr. Proponent for the majority point of view"

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  Bobsterman3000: According to chessbase, Kamsky had a "slight advantage" at some point in this game but I do not see it. Looks dead even at every move to me...

Feb-17-09  attack and destroy: < square dance: <attack and destroy> its different because short probably has about an equal amount of dislike for kamsky and topanailov. > Exactly my point!!!
Feb-17-09  attack and destroy: Why, oh, why we don't have an objective GM to comment this match!
Feb-17-09  LIFE Master AJ: I was watching this game earlier ... they were still in the opening.

Without question, this was a monstrous battle. (I did not fully understand it, and I am a master.) Perhaps with days of analysis - and Fritz's help ... ... ...

I think Topalov will have his hands full.

If both players play this way, then I think that one (decisive) game could prove to be all that it takes to win this match.

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  Hesam7: <The more exotic try 28...Kg8!? would probably have led to the same result after 29.Nf6+ Qxf6 30.Qxh7+ Kf8 31.Rh6 Rc8 32.Rxg6 Rc1+ 33.Kh2 Qe5+ 34.Rg3 Rc3 35.Qg8+ Ke7 36.h4 Black's king is too exposed to entitle him aspire to an advantage.> - GM Marin

Can anybody improve on this line for Black?

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  stoy: 31: ...Re8 perhaps.
Feb-17-09  bishopone: according to chessgames database, kamsky didnt win against Topalov in a classic game. it is true? is 4-0 for topa
Feb-17-09  sillybilly47: On to game Two.
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  samikd: <And he would already have BEEN facing Anand by virtue of winning the World Cup, if not for Topalov and his fellow thugs>

Whether or not Topalov is a thug, I did NOT like how they got their way as far as staging the match in Sofia was concerned. I mean..first the match is scheduled to be in Ukraine, then Danailov whines about it..and lo an behold : suddenly Ukraine gets cancelled and lo and behold again : SOFIA gets the match !


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