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| KKDEREK: < acirce: <blacksburg> The Berlin BORING?!? Go and order John Cox's book right now!> Agreed. Berlin gave us som exciting short draws ! Unfair to say that |
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Feb-18-09
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| whatthefat: I'm fascinated by the way the clock is playing a more and more important role at the top level. As the improvement in chess engines has pushed opening preparation to more insane levels than ever before, we're starting to see games, and even entire matches (Kramnik-Anand, and now possibly this one) decided not so much on how well the lesser prepared player handles the novelty on the board, but how pragmatically they are able to handle it on the clock. I honestly wonder how far we are from a revolutionary change at the top level into less orthodox openings, simply to bring the battle back to the board. In many cases I think it would be worth it to concede White's slight advantage or perhaps not equalize quite so easily as Black, in return for a line where most preparation goes out the window. |
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| Feb-18-09 |
| shr0pshire: <Jim Bartle> In my opinion white was never winning. |
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| Feb-18-09 |
| AuN1: masterful |
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| Feb-18-09 |
| swarmoflocusts: <In my opinion white was never winning.> In Fritz 11's opinion, as well. |
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| Feb-19-09 |
| Ladolcevita: I love topalov....what a game....so sensitive and smart. |
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Feb-19-09
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| notyetagm: http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp...
<21...Rc7!! A fantastic move, starting a powerful counterplay.> |
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Feb-19-09
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| notyetagm: http://www.chessok.com/broadcast/?k...: <21. Nd6 <<<Rc7 Best move>>>
(21... Re7 was worse 22. Bb4 white stands slightly better )
22. c4
(<<<22. Nxc8 !? 22... Raxc8 Rybka Aquarium (0:00.46)-0.76|d22)>>>> |
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Feb-19-09
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| ahmadov: I missed the live coverage... I hoped Kamsky would win the first game with White... :-( |
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| Feb-19-09 |
| TommyC: I don't think 21...Rc7 deserves two !s ---- for two reasons. Firstly, it doesn't take long to realise that the alternative 21...Re7 leaves black with a difficult position after 22.Bb4. Secondly, I saw it coming! |
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Feb-19-09
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| Eyal: <Jim Bartle: Didn't white have a pretty good position after 17 moves or so?> According to the consensus of engines & annotators, Kamsky already went somewhat wrong with 16.Kh1 instead of Be3; then with 17.Bf5 instead of exchanging queens, since it allows Black a clear advantage if he plays 17...Nexf4!; then with the sequence of moves 19-21 (instead of trying something like 19.Ng3), probably missing 21...Rc7!; and finally 22.c4 - instead of going for the 22.Nxc8 Raxc8 23.Rxe6 Rxc2 line, which still leaves White with chances to fight for a draw. See: http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/fil...
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...
http://chessok.com/broadcast/?key=%... |
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Feb-19-09
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| Eyal: Btw, Mig Greengard provides the full time-per-move log at http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt... |
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Feb-19-09
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| acirce: Yes, Kamsky admitted that he simply missed 21..Rc7 I think. <ivan999> linked to a translation of http://topsport.ibox.bg/news/id_363... |
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| Feb-19-09 |
| alfa.vimapa: I think this game is just a sample of what is going to happen in the match Topalov-Kamsky, poor Gata! |
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| Feb-19-09 |
| attack and destroy: Both games showed such an exeptional talent is Gata. This 10 years out of active chess are heavy burden on him. But the guy got education unlike many top chess players who can't do anything else but play chess. |
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Feb-19-09
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| notyetagm: <acirce: Yes, Kamsky admitted that he simply missed 21..Rc7 I think.> 21 ...  f7-c7!! (Marin)
click for larger view |
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Feb-19-09
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| outplayer: <Ladolcevita> Yes Toppy proved he is very well prepared for Gata. Come Gata come. |
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| Feb-19-09 |
| kingsindian2006: <whatthefat> i enjoyed reading ure comment on top level chess about chess and clockwork.. good stuff..good games bring out good comments as well.. got to love the royal game |
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Feb-20-09
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| percyblakeney: <I don't think 21...Rc7 deserves two !s> Pein at TWIC doesn't give it anything, but instead 17. ... Rf7 gets a double exclamation mark, at the same time as he writes that Nexf4 would have been better, slightly unusual evaluation. |
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Feb-20-09
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| whiskeyrebel: I'm a Kamsky fan, but I must applaud Topalov for taking advantage of Kamsky's poor clockwork in textbook fashion. It was very frustrating for many of us to watch. Deep breath..aahhhhh. I'm ready for another game. |
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Feb-20-09
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| blacksburg: is it really the "Berlin" if black doesn't go into the "Berlin Wall" proper? and plays ...Bc5 instead? |
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Feb-20-09
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| plang: In his book "Offbeat Spanish" Fleat refers to this line as the Classical Berlin - it is a hydrid of the Classical (3..Bc5) and the Berlin (3..Nf6). |
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| Feb-21-09 |
| Poisonpawns: 3..Bc5 is known as Cordel`s defense in the ruy 3..Nf6 Berlin:
The Classical Defence or Cordel Defence (ECO C64), 3...Bc5, is possibly the oldest defence to the Ruy Lopez, and is still played occasionally. White's most common reply is 4.c3 when Black may choose to play 4...f5, the Cordel Gambit. This often leads to quite messy positions and a sharp drop in the number of draws in comparison to other reasonable 4th moves for Black. More solid is 4.c3 Nf6, when 5.0-0 0-0 6.d4 Bb6 leads to the Benelux Variation. White's principal alternative to 4.c3 is 4.0-0. |
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| Feb-21-09 |
| Bautismo: I'm not so good in chess so for me this opening looks to me as a mine field |
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| Aug-07-09 |
| kingfu: I think the Berlin involves Nf6 without a6. Is Topalov rated over 2800?? That would put him into some exclusive company!! Fischer never made 2800! |
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