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Veselin Topalov vs Gata Kamsky
Topalov - Kamsky Match (2009), rd 3, Feb-20
Gruenfeld Defense: Russian. Accelerated Variation (D81)  ·  1/2-1/2


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Feb-20-09  apoka: The monster says 23...♔f6, but I'd prefer 23...♗d7 to keep the bishop vs knight advantage in this open position.
Feb-20-09  ketchuplover: Rc7 here?
Feb-20-09  hedgeh0g: <Nigel> The scoundrel!
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  Sneaky: If computers favor ...Rc8+ over ...Re8 that could mean that they think that White is a tiny bit better in the long run. So by interjecting meaningless maneuvers like ...Rc8+ Kb1 Re8 they lengthen the variations and push that "tiny bit betterness" further into the horizon.
Feb-20-09  hedgeh0g: In all seriousness, though, do you think Black's space advantage and more active king counterbalances his pawn weaknesses, Nigel?
Feb-20-09  ketchuplover: I thought Rc7 followed by Kc6 was better
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  Mateo: First I thought 21...Rc8+ was better than 21...Re8, as after 20...Re8 White could play 22.Re1. But there was no reason to fear 22.Re1.
Feb-20-09  Nigel Short: Sod the computer evaluations. Kamsky will hold this in his sleep.
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  autolycus: Now someone is going to say Kamsky should have played Rc7+ before moving the bishop...
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  Marmot PFL: Toplaov can easily get pawns on g3 and f4 supporting Ne5, or something similar but i dont see what it could achieve.
Feb-20-09  AdrianP: Maybe f4 now?
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  Sneaky: <apoka: The monster says 23...Kf6, but I'd prefer 23...Bd7 to keep the bishop vs knight advantage in this open position.> You called it, my friend.
Feb-20-09  AdrianP: Is there any chance of Black being better here, in your view, Nigel?
Feb-20-09  Nigel Short: It is a bit of a blow today because there is no cricket. I have nothing better to do than watch the chess :)
Feb-20-09  vonKrolock: the check was in some way even more "human", because it would put the black ♔ nearer to the corner, with a 'corridor mate' configuration - of course that Gata knows also that he can play that same check with the same idea later if he want..
Feb-20-09  laskersteinitz: Can someone give examples of games where a weakened pawn structure was not disadvantageous? Thank you.
Feb-20-09  JohnBoy: Nige - <For many years Susan Polgar referred to herself as "Four times World Champion" although history appears to show she won the Women's World Championship only once.> So she blows her own importance and maybe skill level way out of proportion. This hardly puts her in a category of one among chess players...
Feb-20-09  chessic eric: 24.Rhe1,Rxe1 25.Rxe1 played
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  whiteshark: omg, <sneaky> You've spotted a method. Do you have any deeper insight into what went down? Will the machines take control of the entire chess world?
Feb-20-09  PinnedPiece: Would white offer a draw at any point here, or does Topalov see possibilities?

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  An Englishman: Good Morning: If both pairs of Rooks come off, this becomes an interesting struggle between White's superior pawns and Black's B vs. N on an open board. If the minor pieces come off, I would guess that White has the edge. If all the pieces come off, Black will have to struggle for the draw. So my question is this: can White use the threat of profitable exchanges to improve his position?
Feb-20-09  benjinathan: shake hands time.
Feb-20-09  Nigel Short: Black is not better but he can get better with some help. The key thing though is to keep the rooks on. If he exchanges them he is in deep trouble.

Feb-20-09  bennytschet: And just like that.....a rook exchange.
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  acirce: I realize that I should trust the judgement of strong GM's over my own, but I just can't see that this is completely without risk.
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