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Alexander Grischuk vs Vassily Ivanchuk
Linares (2009), Linares ESP, rd 10, Mar-02
Russian Game: Classical Attack. Jaenisch Variation (C42)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Mar-02-09  Pawn Ambush: Grischuk is being eatin alive!
Mar-02-09  Mulyahnto: I'd take the draw here. After Qxb2 the a-pawn goes to a3 and it may be hard to stop.
Mar-02-09  Slaven MNE: <Marmot PFL: Black has Kg7 and Qg5 which looks worth trying with his strong queenside pawns.>

Well if there is a player from 2700+ club who would try it it's Ivanchuk!

Mar-02-09  OneArmedScissor: <Pawn Ambush: Grischuk is being eatin alive!>

No he isn't.

Mar-02-09  Kaspykov: 1/2 1/2 official
Mar-02-09  Marmot PFL: <Slaven MNE> too bad though that he cant play Qg5 now cause of Rxd4. maybe Kh7 and if Be4+ kg7 the Qg4 would not attack the Ne4. But grischuk has other moves also.
Mar-02-09  Geronimo: I think any attempt at Qf2 fails without an extra half tempo, as white can pepper the black king with constant checks and/or win the bishop before black can move the knight to f3or e2.
Mar-02-09
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  thethingplays: patzers - does this look drawish to anyone??
Mar-02-09  Geronimo: <thethingplays> Apparently it looked drawish to GMs as well as patzers....
Mar-02-09
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  tpstar: Q: Why do top level GMs manage their time like this?

A: Because they are crazy.

Great fighting draw.

Mar-02-09  Ulhumbrus: On 41 Qg4+ Black can't play 41...Qg5 as White has Rxd4. However suppose the White Bishop is placed on e4 in this position. White will lack the resource of Rxd4 then. On 41 Qg4+ Kh7! 42 Be4+ Kh8 43 Qc8+ Kg7 44 Qg4+ Qg5 the bishop obstructs White's Q and so White can't play Rxd4. This suggests that at move 37 Black can win by 37...Kh7! 38 Be4+ Kh8 39 Qc8+ Kg7 40 Qg4+ Qg5.
Mar-02-09  MarkN: <Eyal> Thanks for answering. So what might be a "normal" amount of time on a non-time-consuming-addict GM clock at say move 30? How about move 35?
Mar-02-09  Kaspykov: <thethingplays: patzers - does this look drawish to anyone??>

I think Crazy Ivanchuk was better but he doesnt want to win.

Mar-02-09
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Mar-02-09
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  beenthere240: How does black stop the series of perpetual checks then?
Mar-02-09  Geronimo: <beenthere240> By offering a draw.

Seriously, look at ulhumbrus' post.

Mar-02-09  MaxxLange: <Q: Why do top level GMs manage their time like this? A: Because they are crazy. >

lol - this explains a lot, really

Mar-02-09
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  Eyal: There's no immediate perpetual after 37...Kh7 - or 41.Qg4+ Kh7 for that matter - so White should probably play 42.h4, to take control of g5, and it's going to be very hard for Black to keep avoiding the checks.
Mar-02-09  Ulhumbrus: <Eyal: There's no immediate perpetual after 37...Kh7 - or 41.Qg4+ Kh7 for that matter - so White should probably play 42.h4, to take control of g5, and it's going to be very hard for Black to keep avoiding the checks. > Black may succeed after 42 h4 Qe5 43 Be4+ f5
Mar-02-09
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  Eyal: <Black may succeed after 42 h4 Qe5 43 Be4+ f5>

Yes, but instead of 43.Be4+? White plays 43.Qd7!; now 43...Qf6 44.Qg4 is repetition, and if the king goes to the g file then Qg4+ again.

Mar-02-09  OneArmedScissor: <Ulhumbrus>
Why do you keep giving variations and move sequences that favor your visceral feelings?
Mar-02-09  Ulhumbrus: <Eyal: <Black may succeed after 42 h4 Qe5 43 Be4+ f5> Yes, but instead of 43.Be4+? White plays 43.Qd7!; now 43...Qf6 44.Qg4 is repetition, and if the king goes to the g file then Qg4+ again.> Let us see whether White can in fact repeat moves if the Black King goes to the g file: 43 Qd7 Kg8 44 Qg4+ Qg7 ( covering still the N on d4) 45 Qc8+ Bf8
Mar-02-09  JG27Pyth: -- The position didn't complicate nearly as much as I thought it would after g5... but all the same a wonderful fighting draw. Drawn games are the best chess -- now I'll go back to ignoring them and only looking at decisive ones.
Mar-02-09
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  Eyal: <Let us see whether White can in fact repeat moves if the Black King goes to the g file: [41...Kh7 42.h4 Qe5] 43 Qd7 Kg8 44 Qg4+ Qg7 ( covering still the N on d4) 45 Qc8+ Bf8>

And now 46.Qxb7 and one of the two remaining weakened Q-side pawns will also fall in a few moves. This is Black's basic problem - in order to stop the checks he has to keep his pieces close to the king, which leaves his Q-side pawns vulnerable. And that seems to be the basic reason why Rybka & Fritz both evaluate the final position as nearly equal, with microscopic advantage to Black at best.

Mar-03-09  Andrijadj: Amazing game...They made petrov interesting...
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