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Alexander Morozevich vs Vladimir Kramnik
Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2009)  ·  Slav Defense: Quiet Variation. Pin Defense (D12)  ·  1-0
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Mar-14-09  brucejavier: 1stttt moro is back to form
Mar-14-09  Bobsterman3000: I thought that Kramnik retired...

Mar-14-09  Woody Wood Pusher: Drawnik continues from where he left off. Losing.

HAHAHA

Mar-14-09  Woody Wood Pusher: Drawnik's play with Black is nauseating.

Mar-14-09  YuanTi: Ha. Ha. How unbelievably witty.
Mar-14-09  tonsillolith: <Woody Wood Pusher> It really is ridiculous how you insult Kramnik. Maybe he's not one of the top 5 or 10 players in the world right now (I think he is), but he is an extremely good player. Am I not getting the joke, or does the problem lie with you?
Mar-14-09  slomarko: <Kramnik’s position turned irreparable when he played 30...Nc1. This decision puzzled Morozevich: ‘I didn’t know why he went for this rook ending as it is quite obvious that it’s lost.’ According to him Black should have tried 30...e5, when White is clearly better, but Black has better chances to survive.>
Mar-14-09  erebdraug: Don't feed the troll. Just save yourself a headache or two and put wwp on ignore instead of trying to reason with him. Many failed before you at this vain task.
Mar-14-09  Woody Wood Pusher: <‘I didn’t know why he went for this rook ending as it is quite obvious that it’s lost.’>

For a moment he thought he saw a draw, and couldn't resist trying for it.

HAHAHAHA

loser.

Mar-15-09  alicefujimori: Theoretically speaking, the position after 6.Nc3 is probably around =, but practically speaking, life isn't easy at all for black as he seriously lacks counterplay and this is probably the reason why Avrukh suggested this line in his book. It is interesting to note that the lack of effective pawn breaks is one of the main reason why black is suffering in this line and if black really want to avoid what happens to them like this game to Kramnik here, then a possibe improvement plan might be to alter the pawn structure early on (maybe with dxc4 and c5 break, for example). This is just a sudden thought though.
Mar-15-09  rangek: tons, you are not getting the joke.
Mar-15-09
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  whiteshark: Morozevich vs Kramnik, 2009 Impressive, the rook endgame was already lost from the very beginning, after <32.b4>:


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Mar-15-09
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  acirce: <After the opening Kramnik had little to complain, but it looked as if his invitation to his opponent to take on a5 on move 21 was borne out of ill-advised optimism. The resulting endgame was quite unpleasant for Black and Kramnik’s position turned irreparable when he played 30...Nc1. This decision puzzled Morozevich: ‘I didn’t know why he went for this rook ending as it is quite obvious that it’s lost.’ According to him Black should have tried 30...e5, when White is clearly better, but Black has better chances to survive.> http://www.amberchess2009.com/Round...
Mar-16-09  cade: Why not 16...fxg5

Seems to put White under some unpleasant pressure.

Mar-20-09  MarbleSkull: "cade: Why not 16...fxg5

Seems to put White under some unpleasant pressure."

16... Kf7 is an important middle move that prevents the brutal Bh3 that would be played after fxg5.

Plus, fxg5 makes the f-file incredibly attractive for white's rooks.

Mar-21-09  tonsillolith: <rangek> Oh, a joke? I get jokes! Sorry for the misunderstanding, <Woody>

Regarding the move 16...Kf7 instead of 16...fxg5, I'm still not sure of the continuation.

So if Black plays 16...fxg5, White responds immediately with 17. Bh3 and not 17. fxg5 Bxg5 18. Bh3? Then it's still bad for Black if 17. Bh3 gxh4 18. Bxe6 follows? Is this mainly because White gets the f- and g-files and Black's doubled g pawns are so weak?

Mar-27-09  MarbleSkull: No, not immediately. It's just that, at move 16., black wants to respond to Bh3 with either f5 or Kf7, and both of these options are removed if you play something like: 16. ... fxg5 17. fxg5 Bxg5 18. Bh3 Bxh4 19. Bxe6 Nf6 20. Nb5 cxb5 21 Bxb4 and white looks far ahead in development.
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