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|Mar-17-09|| ||volvak: A masterpiece by the Carlsen -- he made it look so easy.|
|Mar-17-09|| ||notyetagm: <volvak: A masterpiece by the Carlsen -- he made it look so easy.>|
Carlsen completely outplays World Champion Anand and then zaps him with 25 ... ♗e7xg5!. After losing the critical White g5-pawn the White position just falls apart.
Tactical and strategic domination by Carlsen this game.
|Mar-17-09|| ||znprdx: With our 'untrammeled' vision we might imagine the following:|
25.c4 Be4 26.Bg2 Nb4 (the real threat)
27.Ne5(best counter)Nc2 28.Nxg6 R[h]e8 29.Bd2 Nx[R]a1 30.Rx[N]a1 Qd6 31.Nx[B]e7+Rxe7 32.Bx[B]e4 f5x[B]e4 33.Be3 b6
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> looks interesting, although White's exposed King limits what otherwise would be a clear win.
<percyblakeney: It's blindfold and doesn't really mean anything> I generally enjoy your commentary - but this is a rather silly thing to say as is < cracknik: ...I wonder if these guys are the best blindfold players... a lot of the games so far have been lost with moves of an under 2000 player.> For a game to be won - the loser had to err. All of Chess reduces to a beginner's mate....the last move of the sequence. . The idea that Blindfold play is frivolous is absurd. Alekhine once acknowledged he saw a combination he wouldn't have 'seen' if was actually looking at the board!
The Amber tournament is the best thing that has ever happened in Chess. I think it establishes the true standard of excellence. Classical time controls are continuing to cripple the game -especially as a spectator sport. Most of the 'deep thinking occurs in home preparation these days. I mean let us face it Carlsen at Linares outplays Karjakin and then throws it all away with one move. They could have played at least twice as many Rapid games in the same time. Kamsky sat and wasted invaluable time vs. Topalov - whereas moving we might have seen some action.
|Mar-17-09|| ||kevin86: The kill will come very soon.
Even champs have their off days:Just think the Pirates lost three games:12-0,10-0,16-3 in the 1960 World Series----and WON the series.
|Mar-17-09|| ||Phony Benoni: Looks like Anand never saw it coming.|
|Mar-17-09|| ||playground player: Does anybody here actually play blindfolded? I've tried it a few times... ugh!|
|Mar-17-09|| ||tivrfoa: what is blindfold?
the players don't see the pieces, only mentalize?
who move the pieces?
|Mar-17-09|| ||Once: <tivrfoa: what is blindfold?
the players don't see the pieces, only mentalize?>|
That's the idea. The players call out the moves and a third party makes the moves on a board they cannot see.
Very very difficult for ordinary humans. And to see a move like 28...Bxg5? Reminds me of Wayne's World: "we're not worthy".
|Mar-17-09|| ||shahjinan: <Once: <tivrfoa: what is blindfold? the players don't see the pieces, only mentalize?>
That's the idea. The players call out the moves and a third party makes the moves on a board they cannot see.|
Very very difficult for ordinary humans. And to see a move like 28...Bxg5? Reminds me of Wayne's World: "we're not worthy".>
In modern system, you can see computer board, you have to write your move..and openent has to write in his computer...thats the way you don't need 3rd party....
you can click squares in the computer to make the move..but u will not able to see any pieces.........check videos on amberchess2009.com
|Mar-17-09|| ||tivrfoa: thanks <once>
<shahjinan> great link!!!
|Mar-17-09|| ||zanshin: <playground player: Does anybody here actually play blindfolded? I've tried it a few times... ugh!>|
<pgp> User: malthrope used to play blindfold chess. And not the modified blindfold in Amber where the players are looking at monitors with empty boards indicating the last move, and where you are given 2nd chances if you ask to play an illegal move. If <Mal> forgot the position, he conceded the game. He never asked to play an illegal move. It is simply mindboggling to me that he could do this in a blindfold simul where three opponents chose similar variations of the Ruy Lopez! I think he still has links to these pictures in his bio.
|Mar-17-09|| ||WhiteRook48: whoa! Outstanding game!|
|Mar-17-09|| ||theagenbiteofinwit: What was the point of 3.Bb5? I understand using it to prevent ..d5, but I don't understand the positional benefit of it against a Sicilian D.|
|Mar-18-09|| ||Breunor: Unfortunately, I don't see how to use the 'double pin' you are all talking about after 26 f x g5. Why can't white play it? I don't see how to use the h2 square directly as some of you have mentioned.|
If black plays Q h2ch or R h2 then 27 N x h2 seems to stop everything.
The only move I can see after 26 f x g5 is 26 ... Ne5 and I think white is in trouble. Is this the continuation or am I missing something?
|Mar-18-09|| ||UnsoundHero: After 25...Bxg5 26 fxg5 Bxf3 displaces 2 defenders of the critical h2 square. If then 27 Qxf3 Qh2 mate.|
It's ironic - white left his KB on f1, hoping it would help guard his king. Instead, it took away the king's main flight square, allowing for the possibility of mate.
|Mar-18-09|| ||Breunor: Thanks unsound! That does seem to win!
On 26 .... B x f3 I think white is best off playing 27 Bg2. Of course, black has now regained the piece and has won the pawn outright so I suspect that Anand's line was better; with this line and black can keep the pawn and has a commanding position.
|Mar-18-09|| ||playground player: <zanshin>, <shahjinan>: I didn't know they've introduced electronic aids into blindfold chess! Boo! Hiss! Fie, for shame! Koltanowski must be rolling over in his grave...|
|Mar-18-09|| ||zanshin: <playground player: I didn't know they've introduced electronic aids into blindfold chess! Boo! Hiss! Fie, for shame! >|
<pgp> Indeed ;-) I had to ask <Mal>, if this is blindfold, then what are they looking at? http://www.amberchess2009.com/pictu...
I wonder though how many players they would have if they had adhered to the original rules where you saw nothing and a request to play an illegal move would cost you the game.
|Mar-18-09|| ||KingG: <I wonder though how many players they would have if they had adhered to the original rules where you saw nothing and a request to play an illegal move would cost you the game.> I don't think it would make much difference. If they couldn't see the board then they would have to type the moves in manually, which could be a problem in time trouble, or just generally having to stop each time and make sure you type the move in correctly. I don't think at their level they really need to visual aid of a board.|
|Mar-19-09|| ||playground player: <zanshin> Thanks for the photos. Somehow I expected the likes of Anand, Kramnik, Topalov, and the rest of the greats of modern chess to be playing in more impressive surroundings. But they look like they're playing "battleship" in a high school cafeteria. Oh, well... it's got to be better than having to go to Siberia to play a tournament.|
Meanwhile, visual aids for "blindfold chess" still doesn't strike me as quite kosher. Then again, what is, these days? Baseball has "quality starts" and a "wild card" in the playoffs, and chess has blindfold chess with an electronic board that reminds you what the last move was. Maybe football should add 5 points for almost getting a touchdown.
|Mar-21-09|| ||chancho: Beating Anand in any form of chess is no doubt something the young Norwegian is relishing. It probably serves him as a yardstick to his further progress against the elite.|
|Mar-24-09|| ||jovack: excellent blindfold game..
to anyone new at blindfold.. just give it a try, you'll see it's really not as bad as you think.
it will get very confusing at first, but the trick is to concentrate on only what you need to. then when your opponent makes a play, you can establish what they just moved, and how that affects your position accordingly. trading queens is a good idea for beginners because the queen acts as a rook and bishop. Of course, always visualize the king, and try to line up your pieces towards it.
Also pawn chains, visualize them in your mind, and remember that they are permanent moves and lock up the board, or if you trade them, remember that there are open columns.
the more you play the easier it becomes
|Mar-25-09|| ||tonsillolith: <jovak> Yes, I agree blindfold chess is not as bad as you would think, especially if you are familiar with the notation and where pieces usually go.|
I started doing some blindfold chess in order to increase my calculating ability and also to improve spatial memory in general. I have worked my way up to 2-board "blind simuls" where a friend and I play two games, alternating between the two, and he looks at the boards and makes all the moves and I call out my moves while looking to the side. The position often gets fuzzy after 20 or 30 moves, but I can usually reason through where they should be, even if I can't visualize it.
Does anyone know how well practicing blindfold chess actually corresponds to calculating ability? I haven't noticed a difference yet.
|Nov-20-09|| ||aazqua: Outclassed. Anand is too old to compete with Carlsen in this or blitz.|
|Nov-20-09|| ||Ulhumbrus: Instead of 17 Ne3, 17 f5 Bh7 18 Ng5 gains the bishop pair unless Black chooses 18...Bg8|
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