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Aug-29-10
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Bobby Fischer said it best--open the h-file (14.hxg6), sac (23.Nd5), sac (29.Rxh5+), mate. The idea of deferring castling in favor of the early pawn storm (8.g4) is very interesting. |
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| Aug-29-10 | | Elsinore: A knight on the flank walks the plank. |
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| Aug-29-10 | | I play the Fred: I have to admit it: I have no idea what the pun means. |
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| Aug-29-10 | | tentsewang: Yes, you're absolutely right An Enlishman. Fischer once declared that there was nobody in the world who could beat him if they played dragon against one of Fischer's best sozin variation. |
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| Aug-29-10 | | Elsinore: The pun was first used on a poster for earth day; we're destroying the planet. Besides that intersting fact, it really has nothing to do with the game, considering two women are playing. |
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| Aug-29-10 | | Elsinore: Nevermind. I just checked and the poster that I referred to had a character named Pogo in it which could be a nickname for Pogonina. |
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Aug-29-10
 | | OBIT: <Elsinore>Yes, this comes directly from the Pogo comic strip. (Geez, this had to be explained to the posters? Boy, do I feel old...) |
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| Aug-29-10 | | Elsinore: I feel young because I had to google it. It's actually a very clever pun. |
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Aug-29-10
 | | Once: An enjoyable ending to this game. Here is the position after white has played 27. e6
click for larger viewBlack is struggling here. White has lots of interesting plans to choose from including the deadly rook invasion with Rf3-f7+ (nasty), Rxh5 (so thematic that it is almost a cliche) and Qd4+ (threatening). So black rolls the dice with a counterattack of her own. Unfortunately, it also walks into a forced mate. 27...Qc8 to triple heavy pieces on the c file with pretty obvious mating threats against c1. 28. Qd4+ Kh7. What else? (If 28...Kg8 39. Nxe7+ or 28... Kf8 29. Qh8#) 29. Rxh5+ gxh5 30. Rxh5+ Very very natural in a position like this. 30...Kg6 31. Rh6+ White also wins with Nf4+ and Nxe7+, but this is mate in 2. Would it have been too much to ask for black to have played just one more move? 31...Kxg5 32. Qf4#
click for larger viewAs pretty as a picture. Black has pinned her hopes on a strong file, but has been defeated by a diagonal attack. I don't know what this mate is called. Maybe it is so rare that it doesn't have a name? |
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| Aug-29-10 | | sneaky pete: The phrase was actually first used used by Porky Pine. At the festive dinner on the last page of <Impollutable Pogo> (1970) Albert Alligator is in a sombre mood, muttering "I'm still broodin' about pollution!". He continues "All them characters what dumps anything anywhere ... they is enemies of the people!", tossing his cigar butt away, which lands in a barrel of lemonade. On the last picture, when they all look startled at the polluted lemonade, Pogo exclaims "Albert!" and Porky cries out "We have met the enemy and he is us." |
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Aug-29-10
 | | Richard Taylor: Black had more active continuations but White played well. I am old but I don't know anything about "Pogo comics" ... |
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| Aug-29-10 | | Ratt Boy: Yes, "We have met the enemy and he is us" is from the great Pogo comic strip by Walt Kelly. I'm pretty sure it precedes Earth Day. It's a pun on an expression of military victory, "We have met the enemy and he is ours." I'm not sure what it means with respect to this particular game, however.
Time to check.
Yeah, I was _almost_ right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo_(comics)#.22We_have_met_the_enemy....22 reports that a slightly longer version of it first appeared in 1953, 17 years before the first Earth Day.
Oh, dear. In a 1972 film, Dr. Joyce Brothers attributes the line to Charlie Brown of Peanuts. I always knew she was a charlatan.
Nice game, by the BTW. |
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| Aug-29-10 | | Ratt Boy: Oh, geez. A second look at the game, and it's obvious: the pun is because of the winner's name, the delightful Pogonina. (:facepalm) |
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Aug-29-10
 | | benveniste: I use the tag phrase with some frequency, usually preceded by "No plan survives contact with the enemy." Thank you, Walt Kelly, whereever you are. |
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| Aug-29-10 | | rapidcitychess: The pun has a double meaning because Pogonia is a chessgames.com member and she has accepted a challenge for playing a CC game with us. |
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Aug-29-10
 | | waustad: "I go Pogo" was around at the same time as "I Like Ike" if I recall. I was a mere youth then. |
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Aug-29-10
 | | HeMateMe: If you still have any "I Like Ike" buttons, they may be worth a bit of cash. |
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| Aug-29-10 | | ajile: "We Have Met the Enemy and He is Us."
Black's worst enemy is herself because she got herself into this horrible position. After 17.Bh3 I can't see a way out for Black and she appears positionally busted. Is 0-0 bad for Black in this opening? |
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| Aug-29-10 | | wereman: I think 22.Rxh5 is better 22...gxh5 23.Rxh5 b4 24.Qh2 bxc3 25.Rxh7  Qb6 26.b3 |
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Aug-29-10
 | | sleepyirv: ANOTHER element of the pun, Pogonina is one main proponent of the Sicilian Dragon playing right now. In this game she had to face her own weapon. |
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| Aug-29-10 | | rapidcitychess: We could make a book of the puns here. |
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Aug-29-10
 | | scormus: Nice game, where's the pun? Unless it's the dragon turning her fire on herself? <ajile> yes, 17 ... Bxh3 doesnt look too brilliant. Neither does 20 ... Qd8. I seem to remember just one thing about the dragon: when you get a chance to counterattack give it all you've got. Like most things really .... |
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| Aug-29-10 | | Xeroxx: <scormus> Is that Paolo Roberto in your avatar? |
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| Aug-29-10 | | belgradegambit: Black's opening mistake is 9...Bd7. The main line goes Be6! This is deeply analyzed in Dearing's excellent dragon book. An early example here Sveshnikov vs Van der Wiel, 1980 |
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Aug-29-10
 | | crawfb5: I think the pun should be "We have met the enemy and she is <RUS>." |
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sac: 29.Rxh5+
