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|Mar-29-11|| ||Sharpen Your Tactics: Now I can add
When a Queen defends against mate, calculate all Queen Deflections
to my other rule
Calculate all bishop checks on f7(f2)
Perhaps I should shorthand this to calculate all forcing moves.
I chose the prosaic and winning Rxg7 as well.
|Mar-29-11|| ||Jim Bartle: Nolte sure has black deep in trouble and under fire, it won’t take 48 hours to finish off the poor man (rich man?).|
|Mar-29-11|| ||KingV93: Immediately saw xg7 and thought 'that was easy! even for a Tuesday!' and forgot to look for a better move, missing the brilliantly subtle h3. I guess as a chess player I'm a bit of a butcher.|
Also didn't realize xg7 is better than xg7, giving myself -1 today.
|Mar-29-11|| ||desiobu: Got everything in the game line except the brilliant Rg8+!.|
|Mar-29-11|| ||cyclon: 26.Qh3, cufflinks. Unless Black gives his Queen by 26.-Qg6 (-Kh8 27.Qxh6 pinwins) for a Rook, he gets mated; 26.-Qxh3 27.Rxg7+ Kh8 28.Rxf7+ (f-pawn's got to be eliminated first - otherwise it gets on the way) -Kg8 29.Rg7+ Kh8 30.R-dis.ch. from every square on the g-file except g8 and mates next move.|
|Mar-29-11|| ||David2009: R Nolte vs Aaron Chua, 2009 White 26.?|
Accuray is required: thus 26.Qh5!? "only" wins two-three Pawns after 26...Qxh5 27 Rxg7+ Kh1 28 Rxf7+ Qe5! 29 Rxf8+ Rxf8 30 fxe5 etc. Instead
26.Qh3! Qxh3 27 Rxg7+ Kh8 29 Rg8+ (Rxf7+ also wins) Kxg8 30 Rg1+ Q covers 31 RxQ#. Of course, Black can prolong the game by playing 26...Qg6 giving up Q for R.
The simple 26 Bxg7 or 26 Rxg7 also wins on material. Time to
This elegant puzzle position is worth a diagram:
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The combination as played illustrates the power of the double check. But after 26 Qh3 Qxh3 White can also win without the aid of the Ra1 using the discovered check on f7: 27 Rxg7+ Kh8 28 Rxf7+ Kg8 29 Rg7+ Kh8
30 Rg5+ Rf6 31 Bxf6#. This combination is worth remembering ("the mill").
|Mar-29-11|| ||cyclon: Oh, there was even shorter mate in the 26.-Qxh3 variation!|
|Mar-29-11|| ||patzer2: Black's losing move was 23...bxc3?, allowing 24. Nxf6+ Qxf6 25. Bxc3 .|
Instead, simply 23...Kh8 = holds the fort.
|Mar-29-11|| ||Patriot: <David2009> <Accuray is required: thus 26.Qh5!? "only" wins two-three Pawns after 26...Qxh5 27 Rxg7+ Kh1 28 Rxf7+ Qe5! 29 Rxf8+ Rxf8 30 fxe5 etc.>|
Yep! I went with 26.Qh5 and realized later why 26.Qh3 is much better. The same idea could be used with 26.Qh3 Qxh3 27.Rxg7+ Kh8 28.Rxf7+ Kg8 29.Rg7+ Kh8 30.Rg(1-6)+ Rf6 31.Bxf6# which is only a move longer but it's nice to know the 28.Rg8+ idea as well.
|Mar-29-11|| ||kevin86: I tried Qh5-missing the interposition of the queen at g6 later. The decoy all the way to h3 takes the queen out entirely and leads directly to mate.|
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|Mar-29-11|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: <<Lennonfan:> ...whats a "windmill line" mate...?> For the definition and illustration of a windmill, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ and search "windmill chess".|
After 26.Qh3 Qg6, I liked 27.f5 Qxg1+ 28.Rxg1 f6 29.Qh6 giving the following position:
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Here black can try defending f6 and g7 with 29...Ne8, but white has 30.Bxf6 Rxf6 31.Rxg7+ Nxg7 32.Qxf6 and the rampaging queen will clean up. In any case, I now prefer <Phony Benoni's> line (most recent post) as the sharpest continuation available after 26... Qg6. Rather academic, but even big material advantages can be wasted if poor technique is used.
|Mar-29-11|| ||stst: many ways, some more direct, some will drift longer.
26. Qh3/h5 QxQ
27. Rxg7+ Kh8
28. Rh3/h5 (depending on 26)# as well taking the Bk Q.
A longer grill may go either 26. Rxg7+, or 26.Bxg7 (not recommended, as Bk Q may drift away.)
|Mar-29-11|| ||estrick: <Whitehat1963: How quickly I forget the puzzle I find!>|
I had the same experience last Tuesday
|Mar-29-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: 26.Qh3!! Nice shot.|
|Mar-29-11|| ||YouRang: Well, I went with the first thing I saw, which was 26.Rxg7+ and the resulting Q+P for R+B which should result in an easy win for white.|
I suppose some could say that 26.Qh3 is arguably better, but I would rate this puzzle as having multiple solutions.
|Mar-29-11|| ||benveniste: Kudos to Mr. Nolte for seeing this over the board. Had this not been posed as a puzzle, I would have played the xg7 line.|
|Mar-29-11|| ||scormus: This morning I hardly rubbed the sleep out of my eyes when I tried to solve this "easy" puzzle. I saw the mating pattern, saw the BQh6 safely guarding the g7, saw W needed to force it away and went with 26 Rg3, threatening Rh3 and Rag1. I was fairly sure it would win Q for R. Just about to pat myslef on the back when I checked and saw, not R but Qh3. And a simple #. |
Howcould I be so blind? Went to work, got back, went jogging, and while doing that I thought. "Hey B doesnt have to be #ed, he can simply go 26 ... Qg6 and its more or less the same." Or is it - does 26 Rg3 also win Q for R?
If yes, does it mean jogging is good for the brain.
BTW coincidence the first thing I saw when I logged back was <Once ... B does have to accept ...>
|Mar-29-11|| ||doubledrooks: I first examined 26. Qh5, but rejected that after seeing 26...Qxh5 27. Rxg7+ Kh8 28. Rxf7+ Qe5, and the game goes on.|
Then I spotted 26. Qh3 Qxh3 27. Rxg7+ Kh8 28. Rxf7+ Kg8 29. Rg7+ Kh8 30. Rg6+ Rf6 31. Bxf6#
|Mar-29-11|| ||Lennonfan: <simonwebbstiger>....thats oh so presumptious!! I have games posted in the cafe,check the last one i posted,then call me weak....if your on fics il give you a game??
Back to my original question...whats a windmill line...mate?|
|Mar-29-11|| ||Lennonfan: <bobcrisp> <you ignorant!>
Are you trying to get my attention?? Or were you talking to someone else?|
|Mar-29-11|| ||redorc19: I'm not too proud to say I only found 26. Rxg7+, which isn't bad but goes into an endgame. Hope for a better Wednesday, since this one left me sick, not even finding the 26. Qh5 idea. In my defense, however,I spent literally about 8 seconds to find the Rook takes..|
|Mar-29-11|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: @lennonfan
you are an utter disaster for this website. You pollute threads with trollish rubbish.
I don't want to talk to you.
I will only say a windmill is a little something with a rook and bishop. Rook moves, discovered check, rook moves back with check. It can end with decisive material gain or a mate.
|Mar-29-11|| ||Lennonfan: <simonwebbstiger>...see,there's no need for insults really...couldn't you have just posted that last paragraph? as i only remember asking you a question and not insulting you!....<simonwebbstiger...whats a windmill> your reply....<you are an utter disaster for this website..you pollute threads with trollish rubbish>!!!!!....why dont you go to the goldsby nakamura game page if you want to spk to ppl like that,there's loads of "friendly"ppl EXACTLY like you there....but il leave you with this after your last post... Just exactly who do you think you are speaking to someone like that who's never said anything wrong to you,and declaring im a disaster for this website?? Who made you the judge of whats good and bad on here?? I play chess too,what makes you better than me for this site?? What makes you a better player than me for example?? Its ppl like you who hide behind the internet because you dont have the guts to say that to anyone in a real life everyday situation...i can only think of what would happen!!|
|Mar-29-11|| ||Whitehat1963: <Estick>
<<Whitehat1963: How quickly I forget the puzzle I find!>>
<I had the same experience last Tuesday>
Happens to me far more than I care to mention!
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