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|Nov-19-10|| ||falso contacto: I like e5.|
|Nov-19-10|| ||zb2cr: Wow. I'm impressed with myself that I saw the game continuation. That's normally more than moves deep than I can see.|
|Nov-19-10|| ||Rawprawn: I didn't look further than e5. Any reason why it doesn't work?|
|Nov-19-10|| ||Cardinal Fang: IMO resigning the move before mate is the least classy of Black's options. Either let White deliver the mate, or resign earlier.|
|Nov-19-10|| ||Once: <Cardinal Fang: IMO resigning the move before mate is the least classy of Black's options. Either let White deliver the mate, or resign earlier.>|
Yes, that's the question. It is late in the game and your opponent is steadily strangling you. Mate isn't yet on the board, but it's only a matter of time. As some folks put it in the vernacular, you are getting your botty whupped.
But you are a player of chess, a man (or woman) of deep cunning and strategy. A thinker, a planner, a schemer.
And so your mind starts to ponder your options. The strategic plan is clear - you are going to lose, but you need to find a way to lose that minmises the shame, the horror, the wasted hours.
But what to do? How can we extricate ourselves with maximum dignity?
Of course, there's the Von Bardelebem approach - walk out of the room as if going to the loo and never come back. Nasty. Mind you, it is a fitting irony that Curt Von Bardeleben committed suicide by self-defenestration, aka throwing himself out of a window. I suppose he had a thing for unusual exits.
Alternatively, you could leap onto the nearest table and cry: "Gegen diesen Idioten muss ich verlieren!" Or, in English, "Why must I lose to this idiot?". On second thoughts, best to leave that one to Nimzo.
If you want to look learned in defeat, you could say something like: "That looks like the finish of Fischer versus Xena Onatopp, Mar Del Plata, 1963, don't you think?" And no-one will dare admit that they don't know the game (possibly because you've just made it up).
A really really sneaky method, if you've got lots of time on the clock, is to sink into a very deep think. Eventually, the spectators will get bored and wander off to look at another game. And at the point when you have the least witnesses you quickly turn your king over, say "sorry, I've got a train to catch" and run out of the hall as fast as your little legs will carry you.
Or there's the calculated early resignation. Way before mate is inevitable, you say something like. "Well, that's very clever. I make it mate in seventeen." And although you have lost, you might impress everyone around you with your calculating abilities.
|Nov-19-10|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: In this middlegame position, both sides are attacking kings on opposite wings, but white has a substantial advantage, even though a pawn down. This is partly because the black king is undefended by pieces, while the white bishop contributes to defense by screening the c-file. Also, the h-hile is owned by white, with the white majors better positioned than the black counterparts. A quick finish is in order. I was examining 24.Rxd6 (threatening Rxb6, Rxd7, and e5) when I realized that there is a higher priority forcing move leading to a familiar type of king hunt:|
24.Rh7+! leads to mate with a forcing continuation that exercises longer distance visualization skills:
24... Kxh7 (K-other 25.Qxf7#) 25.Qxf7+ Kh6 (Kh8 28.Rh1#) 26.Rh1+ Kg5 27.f4+ Kg4 28.Qxg6+ Kxf4 29.Rf1+ Ke3 (Ke5 30.Qg5+ Kd4 31.Rd1+ Kxe4 [Kc3 32.Qd2#] 32.Re1+ Kd4 33.Qe3#) 30.Qg5+ Kd4 (Kf2 31.Rf1#) 31.Rd1+ Kxe4 32.Re1+ Qe3 33.Rxe3+ Kd4 34.c3#
OK, mate-in-11, that was fun. Against 24.Rxd6, probably 24... a2 25.Kb2 Rxc4 provides the toughest defense. Time to see the game and earlier kibitzing.
|Nov-19-10|| ||Patriot: I essentially "timed-out" on this. I was taking too much time (I'm at work) and couldn't see it through. There are quite a few avenues of attack after 24.Rh7+, but before playing this in a game I would hope to have plenty of time to figure it out...otherwise I would play it on a hunch.|
Is it enough to say you solved it because you decided "24.Rh7+ wins" without seeing exactly how this huge material investment (a whole rook) is going to work? Everyone probably has their own idea as to what "solved" means. Personally I don't feel it is solved until the position is resolved. Maybe that can be a new catch phrase. "It's not solved until it's resolved."
|Nov-19-10|| ||The Rocket: Everybody analyzes e5, when in fact f4 wins right away.|
Its a simple check and mate in a few moves.
Anyway ultra easy puzzle for someone that specialises in tactics, these type of patterns are common and very easy to memorize.
|Nov-19-10|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: Mate-in-11 was what I got against Crafty EGT (against a queen sac defense I didn't consider), but <agb2002> found the nice shortcut 29.Qf6+ in the 27.f4+ line.|
|Nov-19-10|| ||miseiler: <The Rocket> f4 is not a legal move in the position 24. ?|
|Nov-19-10|| ||ChessGeezer: I saw the first few moves and recognized it as an exercise in chasing the King. I did not follow it all the way through to checkmate in every line because I am lazy this morning. I am certain I do not get full credit. Maybe I'll claim 2 points. That gives me a total of 7 for the week.|
|Nov-19-10|| ||YetAnotherAmateur: For the curious, from the final game position the possibilities are:|
29. ... Kf2 30. Rf1#
29. ... Kd4 30. Rd1+ Kc3 31. Rd3+ Kb4 32. c3#
|Nov-19-10|| ||The Rocket: <"f4 is not a legal move in the position 24. ?">|
I thought you were analysing move 27.
|Nov-19-10|| ||catfriend: <YetAnotherAmateur: For the curious, from the final game position the possibilities are:|
29. ... Kf2 30. Rf1#
29. ... Kd4 30. Rd1+ Kc3 31. Rd3+ Kb4 32. c3#>
For the even more curious, there's 29..Kd4 30.c3+ Kxc3 31.Qd2#
|Nov-19-10|| ||kevin86: Easy for Friday. The rook sac at h7 was a reflex reaction. Delivering the win after that could have been a bit sticky,however.|
|Nov-19-10|| ||YCP: I saw e5, as many others.... also a winning move IMO|
|Nov-19-10|| ||bengalcat47: From the final position, after 29...Kd4 then 30. Rd1+, Kc3; 31. Qd2#.|
|Nov-19-10|| ||shishio71: First time looking at a Friday in a while and I got it quite quickly. Rook sac on h7 followed by Qxf7+ to start a mating net|
|Nov-19-10|| ||doubledrooks: I went with 24. Rh7+ Kxh7 25. Qxf7+ Kh6 26. Rh1+ Kg5 27. Qe7+ Kf4 28. Qh4+ and now:|
a. 28...Ke5 29. Qg5+ Kd4 30. Rd1+ Kc3 31. Rd3+ (I missed the immediate mate with 31. Qd2) Kb4 32. c3#
b. 28...Ke3 29. Qg5+ Kf2 (29...Kd4 leads to a. above) 30. Qd2+ (30. Rf1 mates one move sooner) Kg3 31. Rh3#
|Nov-19-10|| ||BOSTER: Rook sacr.on h7, when all all black pieces are on Queen's side, leaving his King alone,is so rutine that I can hear how h7 square complains "Again?". Because "Life is matter of taste" I'd play 24.e5(threat Qf6 and Rh8#) dxe5 25.Qxe5+ f6 (if Kf8 Qf6 with Rh8# after Qe3+ Kb1 a2+ Kxa2 ) 26.Rxd7 Kg8 27. Rh8+ Kxh8 28. Qxf6+ Kg8 29.Qg7#.|
|Nov-19-10|| ||scormus: 27 Qe7+. Yes, I thought that was the one difficult move to find, and I missed it. Sigh ....|
|Nov-19-10|| ||Jimfromprovidence: I got something completely different and ridicuously complicated;|
24 Qh6+ Kf6 25 e5 dxe5 26 Qh4+ Kg7 27 Qh7+ Kf6 28 Rxd7! (threatening mate in 2).
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Now, 28...Qe3+ 29 Kb1 Rf8 30 Qh4+ Qg5 31 Qxg5+ Kxg5 32 Ka2 and white should be up a piece for a pawn after taking the a3 pawn.
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|Nov-19-10|| ||OrigamiArtist: 20...Rfc8 looks like a fairly big blunder as the Rh7 move is more or less a reflex move in the puzzle line. Instead 20...Qc5 looks good as white seems to have nothing better than to trade queens e.g. 21.Qf4 g5! 22.Qxd6 Qxd6 23.Rxd6 Bb5 which looks equal. The Bc4/b3 idea seems unusual and most likely the culprit; 17.axb4! axb4 18.h5 looks like a much better way to go for white.|
|Nov-19-10|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: <Jimfromprovidence:> In fact, I think this is a very clean, technical way to win and Crafty EGT can't improve black's play in your line.|
|Nov-19-10|| ||gmalino: 24.e5 dxe5 (forced because of Qf6+, mate follows)
If black plays Kf8 on move 25
26.Rh7 is the killer
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