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Vassily Ivanchuk vs Magnus Carlsen
M-Tel Masters (2009), Sofia BUL, rd 8, May-21
Sicilian Defense: Old Sicilian. General (B30)  ·  1/2-1/2
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May-21-09
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  OhioChessFan: Either the players are wrong or Fritz is wrong the last 5 moves. I suspect it's Fritz. ;)
May-21-09
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  OhioChessFan: Fritz now says e6 and not Nd7.
May-21-09
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  Sneaky: I think Fritz and Mangus both fear the immediate ...Nd7 due to some combination of Nd5 and Ra7. I can't quite put it together in my head (enough to declare that White wins a pawn or something) but it just looks sort of scary.
May-21-09  bernieno: <OhioChessFan: Either the players are wrong or Fritz is wrong the last 5 moves. I suspect it's Fritz. ;)> It is the players more often than we like to admit. But of course computers can make mistakes too, in particular when they only have a short time to look at each move. And there were some quick moves here.
May-21-09
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  mike1: white has to deal with Rc3 now.
May-21-09
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  Sneaky: Sometimes (human) players intentionally aim for a pawn-down ending that they know they can defend, while the computers cling to their material until the bitter end even if it means making ridiculous looking moves.

I think Magnus has faith that he can hold this position, but he gave up any notions to actually win the game long ago.

May-21-09
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  Eyal: Chessdom gives 27...Rxb3 28.Rxe7 Rb2+ 29.Kg3 Re2 30.Kf4 d5! 31.exd5 Rxe3 32.Rxe3 Nxd5+ as a possible drawing line.
May-21-09
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  cornflake: I guess Chucky didn't like the idea of being left with an isolated d pawn. Hence e6
May-21-09  TheBB: <cornflake> Chucky is white.
May-21-09
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  cornflake: excuse me. Carlsen
May-21-09
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  OhioChessFan: <SatelliteDan> 19. Rd1 looked interesting. But at 22 plies, Fritz is tossing out 0.00 There are lots of points of departure along the way, but here's one line:

19...Qxd4 20. Rxd4 Rfc8 21. Nd5 Rxc2 22. Nxe7+ Kf8 23. Nd5 Ne5 24. Rdd1 Rxb3 25. Rxa5 Rbb2

May-21-09
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  Sneaky: I was just bouncing ideas off of "Little Chess Partner" so I tried 28.Rb7 Rxb3 29.Nc4. Then LCP surprised me with the desperado sacrifice ...Rxf3+!? and the play became quite unclear. I guess I like Black there--better to have more pawns than the exchange at this stage of the game.
May-21-09
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  Sneaky: Ooooh look! It's my line, it's my line!
May-21-09
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  Domdaniel: <Sneaky> Maybe LCP is psychic.
May-21-09
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  Mateo: 31.Rb4 wins the 'd' pawn.
May-21-09  kellmano: <Sneaky: I was just bouncing ideas off of "Little Chess Partner" so I tried 28.Rb7 Rxb3 29.Nc4.>

Ha ha. Forget Fritz. These guys clearly train with LCP!

May-21-09
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  OhioChessFan: Wow! LCP is the new puter champion!
May-21-09
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  OhioChessFan: Rb4 d5 is fine.
May-21-09
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  OhioChessFan: Rb8/d8 seems pretty obvious.
May-21-09  MagisterMusicae: 1/2 - 1/2
May-21-09
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  OhioChessFan: That was quick. Guess Carlsen saw that all the way back at Rxf3+
May-21-09
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  OhioChessFan: Anyone want to take a shot at 36. Rc5 Nd6 37. Kg3?
May-21-09  Kola: <<Kola> is this a relative of yours? R Kola>

Not at all...

May-21-09  PinnedPiece: I'm starting to get the impression that the young GM gneration has determined through feedback, blogs, spectator comments, and all the other places their antenna are tuned nowadays, that draw by repeated move is the way to go when you have a draw upcoming...it arouses far less comment and distaste, and they don't suffer the same quantity of abuse.

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May-21-09
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  Marmot PFL: Not that i think white has much but 16 Bb3 followed by using the a file looked worth a try, instead of the drawish exchange of both bishops.
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