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Solomon B Celis III vs Hoang Nam Nguyen
"Hoang Nam Style" (game of the day Sep-19-12)
8th Asian Continental Chess Championship (2009)  ·  Gruenfeld Defense: Three Knights Variation (D90)  ·  0-1
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Sep-19-12
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  Phony Benoni: <Bludnerdome> Please. Not while I'm listening to Mendelssohn. Although we do have one thing in common. Fewer than 1 million were me as well.

The game is also rather new style. I really liked White's 11.Nc6; he a pawn down, but with an "immortal knight on c5, pressure on Black's weak pawns, and a Black bishop on a8 which is not likely to ever see the light of day. The classical evaluation might be in White's favor, but the computers have taught us how to play the defensive side of such positions.

Maybe the whole 19.e4/20.exd5 idea was not wise: Black keeps his pawn, most of White's initiative evaporates, and Black imperceptibly takes over. I wonder if White felt any danger before the last few moves.

Sep-19-12  newzild: <Phony Benoni> Yes, I also liked 11. Nc6 and to my eye White has very good compensation for the pawn. I agree that 20. exd5 was bad, as it caused the position to open up for Black's imprisoned Ba8. Unfortunately for White, the alternative move 20. Bd2 allows 20...Rxb2, when Black has two extra doubled pawns, but maybe this was best anyway. I think White should have played 19. b3 to prepare 20. e4.
Sep-19-12
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  Shams: <newzild> <Unfortunately for White, the alternative move 20. Bd2 allows 20...Rxb2, when Black has two extra doubled pawns, but maybe this was best anyway.>

On 21.exd5 Rxd2 22.dxc6 isn't Black just playing down a piece?

Sep-19-12  Psihadal: lol at the pun
Sep-19-12  TheTamale: Thanks, Chessgames and <Blunderdome>, for introducing me to Gangnam Style. That guy is my new hero... a truly inspiring video for nerds worldwide.
Sep-19-12
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  FSR: What's this "open condom style" they keep singing about?

s/ Emily Litella

Sep-19-12  newzild: <Shams:> <newzild> <Unfortunately for White, the alternative move 20. Bd2 allows 20...Rxb2, when Black has two extra doubled pawns, but maybe this was best anyway.>

<On 21.exd5 Rxd2 22.dxc6 isn't Black just playing down a piece?>

No, you're overlooking that White just moved his bishop to the second rank.

20. Bd2 Rxb2 21. exd5 Rxd2.

White can continue 22. dxc6 when he has compensation for the pawn - but not as much as he had before because Black's Ba8 is now imprisoned by a White pawn instead of a Black pawn (in other words, it has something to attack).

Sep-19-12  harish22: agree with the fact that 19.e4/20 ed5 is bad. white exchanges his good bishop (g2) for black's bad bishop (a8). He also has allows his other bishop (g5) to be exchanged, thereby allowing black's strong bishop (g7) to get more powerful.

White was counting on his centralized queen and knight. But did not capitalize on it. 24. Rd1 grabbing the queen file was required. With 25.. e4 black closed the a8-g2 diagonal for the queen and from then onwards white was playing a queen down.

Sep-19-12  FairyPromotion: <FSR: What's this "open condom style" they keep singing about?>

It's actually "Open Condom Store"!! :D

Sep-19-12
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  playground player: Korean rap artist? I didn't get where I am today by listening to Korean rap artists.
Sep-19-12  MATTYMONKEES: Black did a great job marginalizing White's Queen in this game.

Tough to win when your Queen is forced to hang out in a corner somewhere and basically do nothing.

Sep-19-12  Blunderdome: <<FSR: What's this "open condom style" they keep singing about?>

It's actually "Open Condom Store"!! :D>

It's not a style... it's a store!

Sep-19-12  Blunderdome: <Phony Benoni> Well, comparing Mendelssohn to PSY is kind of like comparing a Lamborghini to a hot air balloon. The video is supposed to be <fun>, not transcendent. Personally, I find it hilarious.
Sep-19-12
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  Castleinthesky: I agree with <MATTYMONKEES>, this game is a great example of the "poisoned pawn," which is well used to isolate white's queen.

Ah yes, puns based upon Korean rap stars. This certainly sets a new standard for reaching. How about Roman pop-artists? Why leave them out?

Sep-19-12
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  kevin86: mate follows next move.
Sep-19-12
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  horncabbage: Those of us who are in the know call them K. rap artists.
Sep-19-12
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  Shams: <newzild> <No, you're overlooking that White just moved his bishop to the second rank.>

By "playing down a piece" I was referring to Black's imprisoned bishop, which shouldn't ever get out.

Sep-19-12  gofer: What about something a little more <Western>?

<Failing to avoid the Hoang Nam's noose>

Sep-19-12  Slink: <sigh>. you guys prove that the west is clueless and parochial. go back to your cloisters and study opening theory while east asians will come to dominate the century.
Sep-19-12  rapidcitychess: ...

Ouch.

That hurt. :(

Sep-19-12  hugogomes: Too bad he's Vietnamese. Would be so much more awesome if he were Korean ;D
Sep-23-12
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  Phony Benoni: <Blunderdome> This was brought to my attention today: http://cheezburger.com/42044929
Sep-26-12  Blunderdome: <Phony Benoni> Haha, yeah, there's a lot of parodies. I've been watching the Psy video and I may have been too hasty in assuming Mendelssohn was the better artist. I certainly can't remember Mendelssohn ever dancing on a train with a hot Korean girl.
Sep-26-12
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  Phony Benoni: <Blunderdome> Oh, I don't know. Any musician who dies before the age of 40 and has a sister named "Fanny" would probably fit right in with the current crowd.
Sep-26-12  Blunderdome: Yeah. A Mendelssohn / Psy collaboration could have really rocked the world.
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