Vladimir Kramnik vs Dmitry Jakovenko (2009)

Vladimir Kramnik vs Dmitry Jakovenko
Dortmund (2009) · Queen's Gambit Declined: Ragozin Defense (D38) · 1/2-1/2

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Jul-06-09		acirce: Well as the engines point out Black has ..h5! and on Qxh5? f5! Nf2? Rh6! winning. So the knight has to retreat and it's hard to believe in White any more.

Jul-06-09		Sastre: Not good enough when both are being paid.

Jul-06-09		chessgames.com: Stay tuned, we'll switch to the Carlsen-Naiditsch game in just a few minutes.

Jul-06-09		Open Defence: < Ulhumbrus > after c5 why not simply d5 or axb5 ?

Jul-06-09		AdrianP: Kramnik 1.0 not Kramnik 2.0, I guess. (or even Kramnik 0.5...).

Jul-06-09		just a kid: Leko-Bacrot looks interesting,but will probably end up like this game.

Jul-06-09		Fiberking: Just when I was hoping for a relaunched Kramnik, or the old Kramnik, or Kramnik 2.0, Drawnik returns. Too bad.

Jul-06-09		Open Defence: it could be that both Kramnik and Jakovenko did miss h5.. its possible

Jul-06-09		GreenArrow: disgraceful result. They should really impose a no draw offer rule in Dortmund, it is the worst tournament because they consistently invite the two biggest culprits - Kramnik and Leko

Jul-06-09		Ulhumbrus: <Open Defence: < Ulhumbrus > after c5 why not simply d5 or axb5 ?> 19...c5 20 d5 Rd6 or 19...c5 20 ab ab

Jul-06-09		whiteshark: TIA <chessgames.com>!!!

Jul-06-09		acirce: Of course people blame Kramnik when his opponent accepts a draw in a better position. What else is new? :-)

Jul-06-09		parisattack: <Fiberking: Just when I was hoping for a relaunched Kramnik, or the old Kramnik, or Kramnik 2.0, Drawnik returns. Too bad.> Me, too. Looks like lots of play left here.

Jul-06-09		SetNoEscapeOn: On one level, I think this draw can legitimately be criticized. On another, the offer just looks like a "good move" (assuming that Kramnik made it).

Jul-06-09		DEEPERGRAY: Kasparov would never agree to a draw in this postion unless a draw guarenteed victory He would fight on Kramnik had a minor advantage against a weaker player He should have fought on

Jul-06-09		Mateo: <Open Defence: it could be that both Kramnik and Jakovenko did miss h5.. its possible> Maybe but there was no reason to take the draw at this stage.

Jul-06-09		Absentee: Disgraceful.

Jul-06-09		DEEPERGRAY: Does anyone have a final eval of the position via chess engine?

Jul-06-09		whiteshark: The other 19-mover so far was Carlsen vs Kramnik, 2009 The average number of moves from Kramnik's five games is <24>.

Jul-06-09		DEEPERGRAY: I thought kramnik had black pieces A draw is reasonably accepted by kramnik (drawnik)

Jul-06-09		hedgeh0g: To be fair on Kramnik, he is one of only three players to have a win so far in this tournament.

Jul-06-09		percyblakeney: <Does anyone have a final eval of the position via chess engine?> It's "only" -0.48 according to Rybka 3, even if that is rather much for Rybka, and considering that Jakovenko was 15 minutes up he definitely could have played on here.

Jul-06-09		acirce: Kramnik hasn't showed a lot in this tournament apart from what I guess is good preparation, at least with Black. But it is still enough for shared lead.. (I think Carlsen is going to win today though.)

Jul-06-09		TommyC: An advert for the Sofia Rule!

Jul-06-09		yalie: <acirce: Of course people blame Kramnik when his opponent accepts a draw in a better position. What else is new? :-)> sad irony that the "best player" in the world with the white pieces is in trouble after just 19 moves. :) i guess now that Kramnik has a win with black pieces, this tournament can be considered a success for him. He does not even need to show up and play anymore:)

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