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Vladimir Kramnik vs Magnus Carlsen
"M.C. Hammered" (game of the day Feb-03-2010)
Dortmund Sparkassen (2009), Dortmund GER, rd 8, Jul-10
Queen's Gambit Declined: Harrwitz Attack. Main Line Old Main Line (D37)  ·  1-0
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Feb-03-10
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  acirce: <He may become a contender for world championship in the next years, but, for a while, he must grow up a litle. Its natural, of all the World Champions that started as young progidies, NOT ONE was able to accomplish this feat so young.>

Sure, but Carlsen is already unique in chess history in having accomplished so much being so young. And honestly I don't see a single reason to think he would not already have pretty good chances in a match against anyone, and I've said this for a while. Maybe there is still a small handful of players who would be slight favourites against him, but it's no more than that.

Feb-03-10  tivrfoa: Hi folks!
I failed to see the victory after 36. ... Qb6. Help me!!!! :]
Feb-03-10  paavoh: @tivrfoa: Just look on Jul-19-09 comments by <visayanbraindoctor>
Feb-03-10  lzromeu: Kramnik knows the secrets to win Carlsen/Kasparov style. Last week do the same in Wijck ann Zee
Feb-03-10  davegras: Probably already said on one of the preceding pages but that's a clever pun!
Feb-03-10
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  Eyal: <spotkicker: 25.Rd6! is the winning point. It kills the defence of black. 25...Qc5 comes across 26.Re6! and 27...fe6 28.Qf6 goes to mate.>

No, actually 25Qc5!! Would save Black; there's no mate after 26.Rxe6 fxe6 27.Qf6+ (or 27.Qh6+ Ke7 28.Qxe6+ Kd8) 27...Bf7 28.Bxe6 Ne5. As was already pointed out in previous kibitzing, the really incredible line goes 26.Ne4(!) Qxc4 27.Nf6 (with the threat Nxh7#) Ke7 and somehow there's no winning discovered check here for White; 28.Rd1 Nd4 29.Nxe8+ Kxe8 30.Qg8+ Ke7 31.Qxa8 Qd5! and by another miracle the threat of Nf3+ forces White to return the exchange with a roughly equal queen endgame. Hard to blame Carlsen for missing this, though.

Feb-03-10
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  sfm: <tivrfoa: Hi folks!
I failed to see the victory after 36. ... Qb6. Help me!!!! :]>

Hmmm, that was surprisingly hard to find an answer to - but at least White can win the Black bishop after the following. All black moves are forced, or he will lose more than the bishop. 37.Be6+,Bd7
38.Qf8+,Qd8
39.Qc5+,Kb8
40.Qe5+,Kc8
41.Nd6+,Kb8
42.Nf7+,Qf7
43.BxB

with a very easy win. Did I overlook something easier?

Feb-03-10
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  sfm: - that should be 42.-,Qc7, of course.
Feb-03-10
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  Eyal: One amusing line after 36...Qb6, where White mates without the queen, goes 37.Be6+ Bd7 38.Qf8+ Qd8 39.Qc5+ Kb8 40.Bxd7 b6 (40...Qxd7 41.Qf8+ Qc8 42.Qd6+ and mate next move) 41.Qd6+ Kb7 42.Bc6+ Ka6 (42...Kc8 43.Qe6+ Kb8 44.Qf7 Qc8 [to defend b7] 45.Qf4+ and mate next move) 43.Qd4 (threatens mate on a1) 43...Qxd4 44.Nc7#


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Feb-03-10
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  playground player: I could be wrong, but somehow Kasparov training Carlsen reminds me of Mel Stottlemyre coaching Dwight Gooden--he trained him right out of being Dwight Gooden.
Feb-03-10  Everett: <playground player> Yes, there is no guarantee that Kasparov will be the best fit for Carlsen.
Feb-03-10
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  sfm: <Eyal: 40.Bxd7>
Ah! There it was! I did have the feeling there was a faster way. :-) Nice variation, especially I like 43.Qd4 and mate next move - instead of 43.Qxd8 and Black can tease with -,Rc8! :-)
Feb-03-10
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  Once: Good pun - you can't touch this.
Feb-03-10  drpoundsign: we have to play...

just to make it today!

Feb-03-10  drpoundsign: why is it that "chessica" and most computers I play accept the Queen's gambit (and beat me)
Feb-03-10  hstevens129: One third of Kramnik's moves (12 out of 36) are checks. That's got to be some kind of record.
Feb-03-10  ajile: These lines where Black plays ..d5 and ..c5 seem iffy at best for Black.
Feb-03-10  goodevans: I'm sure there must be a really quick win after 36 ... Qd8 but I can't see it. The quickest I could find was <
36 ... Qd8
37 Be6+ Bd7
38 Qc3+ Kb8
39 Bxd7 b6
>

(39 ... Qxd7
40 Qh8+ Qc8
41 Qe5+ Qc7
42 Qxc7#)
<
40 Qe5+ Kb7
41 Nd6+ Kb8
42 Ne8+ Kb7
43 Qd5+ Kb8
44 Qd6+ Kb7
45 Bc6+
>

winning.
Feb-04-10
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  kevin86: KramMars his opponent.
Jul-13-10  Marmot PFL: <Dortmund starts in a few days and the question is who is the biggest threat against Kramnik's winning it for the 10th time. >

Why did Carlsen turn it down this year?

Nov-20-10  echector: Aronian will win the world championship.
Dec-25-10  notyetagm: Game Collection: Kramnik's Best Games
Dec-25-10  ughaibu: Wow!! Five years ago that would've been unthinkable.
Apr-11-11
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  HAPERSAUD: Kramnik say "Can't Touch THIS!"
May-22-12  Anderssen99: A lovely finish. 36...,Qb6. 37.Be6+,Bd7 (37....,Kb8?. 38.Qe5+ mates). 38.Qh8+,Qd8. 39.Qc3+,Kb8. 40.Bxd7,Qxd7. 41.Qh8+,Qc8. 42.Qe5+ mating move.
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