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Vladimir Kramnik vs Magnus Carlsen
"M.C. Hammered" (game of the day Feb-03-2010)
Dortmund (2009), Dortmund GER, rd 8, Jul-10
Queen's Gambit Declined: Harrwitz Attack. Main Line Old Main Line (D37)  ·  1-0


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  acirce: On 25..Qc5, White can also insert 26.Qh6+ Kg8 27.Qg5+ Kf8 to save time and to hope for 26..Ke7 27.Nd5+!

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27..Kxd6 28.Qf8+, 27..exd5 28.Rxd5 Qxc4 29.Qd6#

or 27..Kh8 28.Ne4!

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28..Qxc4 29.Nf6 Ne7 30.Qh6.

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  Softpaw: Carlsen falters...
Jul-10-09  just a kid: Carlsen blunders!Rybka gives White an advantage of +1.94 now!
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  Boomie: Oops. The kid seems to have missed Nb5.
Jul-10-09  percyblakeney: Ouch, Qc7 just loses...
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  acirce: I am not surprised. It seemed very dangerous after ..Qc5 as well. A computer could see that Black would survive, not necessarily a human.
Jul-10-09  Dionyseus: Analysis by Rybka 3 x64 4CPU:

25...Qc5 26.Ne4 Qxc4[] 27.Nf6 Ke7[] 28.Rd1 Nd4[] 29.Nxe8+ Kxe8 30.Qg8+ Ke7 31.Qxa8[] Qd5 32.Rxd4 Qxd4[] 33.Qxb7+ Kf6[] 34.h3 h6[] 35.h4 a5[] 36.b4 Qa1+[] 37.Kg2 Qxa3 38.b5 a4 39.b6 Qd6 40.Qc7 Qd5+ = (0.00) Depth: 20 00:02:31 58533kN

Instead Carlsen played the horrendous blunder 25...Qc7 and Rybka almost had a heart attack.

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  Marmot PFL: What was wrong with Rd8?
Jul-10-09  Ulhumbrus: Perhaps the idea behind 25 Rd6 is to sacrifice the R on e6 so as to place White's Q as well as White's B on the a2-g8 diagonal, ao that Black cannot then interpose his B on f7 eg 25 ...Rd8 26 Qh6+ Kg8 27 Rxe6! fxe6 28 Qxe6+ Kf8 29 Qf6+ Bf7 30 Qxf7 mate
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  whiteshark: omg, the boy make me rich
Jul-10-09  sallom89: Finish him!
Jul-10-09  pawndookie: Carlsen seems to miss knight jumps on occasion. See his last game with Shirov.
Jul-10-09  DrGridlock: <Marmot PFL: What was wrong with Rd8?>

Nothing wrong with Rd8.
Qc5 and Rd8 were the two candidate moves for Carlsen at black's move 25. Each were approximately equal, and both superior to Qc7.

Jul-10-09  percyblakeney: <It seemed very dangerous after ..Qc5 as well>

There's a difference between dangerous and lost though :-) Carlsen was up on the clock and should maybe have looked a little closer at other options.

Jul-10-09  vonKrolock: yes, if white could manage to advance the ♘, black King's position would become very precarious... but if ♕c7 was not one of the first machine choices it can be dangerous too
Jul-10-09  percyblakeney: Well, it isn't totally over yet, but it does look very nice for Kramnik now.
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  OneArmedScissor: Nd5!


Jul-10-09  just a kid: Now 28.Nb5!
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  acirce: <Carlsen was up on the clock and should maybe have looked a little closer at other options.>

What do you mean? Other options than what he played? Who says that's not what he did and concluded that it also lost?

Jul-10-09  Ulhumbrus: 27 Nb5 defends the Rook with tempo, and attacks the Black Q, now that she can't go to e7 in reply
Jul-10-09  Dionyseus: Analysis by Rybka 3 x64 4CPU:

27.Nb5 Qxd6
(2.57) Depth: 18 00:03:22 57737kN

Jul-10-09  percyblakeney: <Who says that's not what he did and concluded that it also lost?>

Probably, even if he had time to look closer and see that it wasn't lost.

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  mcguigan97: <acirce: <Carlsen was up on the clock and should maybe have looked a little closer at other options.> What do you mean? Other options than what he played? Who says that's not what he did and concluded that it also lost?>

Qc5 is equal. Qc7 is a blunder.

Jul-10-09  Ulhumbrus: On 27 Qh4+ Kxd6? 28 Nb5+ forks the K and Q
Jul-10-09  Meatwad: Can Krammy find the 3-fold repetition? 1/2-1/2!
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