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Michael Adams vs Jason Ventura
Canadian Open (2009), Edmonton CAN, rd 1, Jul-11
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation (B90)  ·  1-0


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Jul-14-09  chaarl: Cracking game by Adams here. He demonstrates how precarious the Najdorf can be, with just a slight deviation from theory. Well played.
Jul-14-09  Emma: What a massacre
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  whiteshark: <Emma: <What a massacre>> Indeed. It's curious, but after <8...Nd7> no one played <9.e6>, whereas after <8...Ng4> some players did.
Jul-14-09  timhortons: is this najdorf lipnitzky attack right?
Jul-14-09  Knight13: I bet Jason Ventura was pretty happy that he gets to play Adams.

Heck no, 6...e6 is far better for someone facing another player who's that much higher rated.

And 9...f5?? is pure suicide. Weakens the king AND loses a pawn.

Jul-16-09  MarvinTsai: What else he can play if not 9...f5?

9...Nf6 10.exf7

9...Ne5 10.f4 and 10.exf7

9...Nh6 10.Bxh6 and 10.exf7

But 13.d5 is the move people in panic play.

Jul-17-09  Ziggurat: < It's curious, but after <8...Nd7> no one played <9.e6>, whereas after <8...Ng4> some players did.> Why curious? It simply looks stronger after 8...Ng4 than after 8...Nd7.
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  jessicafischerqueen: This is nonsense and very bad for Canadian chess.

This is the story of the first round-

All the Canadian Class A players competing against the top seeded Grandmasters (It's a Swiss format)? and getting HUMILIATED.

What is the point of playing <Irina Krush> or <Mickey Adams> when you are a Class A or even B club player?

Just to say you played them?

Well they are not "playing them" they are embarrassing themselves.

I am ashamed for them and ashamed of them.

Why don't they play in the 1800-2000 class and show some humility?

Instead of getting humiliated.


Obviously it would be great fun to "test yourself" against a GM in an skittles game-

But to officially play them in a real tournament with such a ratings mismatch is simply silly, at best.

And really embarrassing at worst.

Jul-17-09  Chuckles: There are no class sections in the tournament; everyone is just grouped together in a giant swiss.

As far as I can tell, neither the GMs nor the players being "humiliated" have much problem with this, and you do get nice stories such as Shirov going for dinner with his first round opponent.

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  jessicafischerqueen: <Chuckles> Well going for dinner would be nice.

I just think that if you are going to play <Shirov> you should earn the right to do so.

Which is not the case in giant Swiss Opens.

You can "play" a GM without having shown the slightest reason in your entire career why you should get to sit at the table with them- to play chess, as opposed to eat crow at a dinner table.

Are you sure about the no sections?

I'm almost sure that <User: The Albertan> told me he was going to play in one of the "ratings sections"?

Maybe I will ask him.

I suppose I could GOOGLE the tournament rules and set up.

Too lazy though.

You see- I am a Canadian.

Jul-21-09  kingfu: I love Canada! Britsh Columbia and Vancouver are wonderful. Whistler is voted one of the top resorts in the WORLD year after year. These chess results happen often when a lower player goes against a higher player. It is instructive because you learn principles. Game after game you see Kings in the middle, lack of development and pawn grabbing. The results are usually the same; the higher player wins.
Jul-22-09  Micah Hughey: There were no sections. Everyone was in one big Open tournament, with 203 players.

And Jason Ventura wasn't embarrassed by this game, he was thrilled to play such a famous player, and the crowd loved it.

Jul-22-09  positionalgenius: <jess> He was playing one of the top players in the world for years , a guy who has played with and against every big name and at every big tournament since the 1990s. So i don't think its a real humilation to lose to adams.
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