chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Vitaly Tseshkovsky vs Evgeny Yuryevich Vladimirov
Trud (1986), ?
Russian Game: Paulsen Attack (C42)  ·  0-1
ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening
find similar games 7 more Tseshkovsky/E Vladimirov games
sac: 25...Bxa2 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: All games have a Kibitzer's Corner provided for community discussion. If you have a question or comment about this game, register a free account so you can post there.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Aug-14-09  eaglewing: <Many>: An improvement for Black? I would like to refer to a line (slightly corrected) from <gofer: 28 ... Qb7 29 Qc3 Qb1 30 Re2 a3 31 Kf1 a2 32 Re8+ Kh7 32 Kf1 a2 33 Ra8 and Qb5+ 34 Kg1 Qe2>

First, the small improvement takes place in case of 33. Ra8 a1Q 34. RxQa1 QxRa1 35. Qc8+ Kh7 36. Qf5+ g6 37. Qxf7+ Qg7 due to the pawn f7 gone in comparison to the often cited line with 32. RxPa2.

Second, an unclear expansion to <gofer's> line: 33 Ra8 Qb5+ 34 Kg1 Qe2 35. Rh8+ Kg6 (Kxh8 Qc8+ Kh7 Qf5+ g6 Qxf7+ looks like a perpetual) Qg3+ (Qc6+ f6 Qe8+ Qxe8 Rxe8 a1Q). With this position Black's threats a1Q and R or Q xe1 mate are overwhelming, but can a perpetual be avoided without losing the threats? I haven't yet looked much into it, but maybe there is some hope, or can someone easily bust this?

Aug-14-09  eaglewing: Correction: 33 Ra8 Qb5+ 34 Kg1 Qe2 35. Rh8+ Kxh8 36 Qc8+ Rd8! 37 Qxd8 Kh7 does lose. But on the board Rh8+ could be tried for a swindle.
Aug-14-09  eaglewing: Oops! To correct a correction: 33 Ra8 Qb5+ 34 Kg1 Qe2 35. Rh8+ Kxh8 36 Qc8+ Rd8 37 Qxd8 Kh7 38. Qa5 might hold, especially because 38. Qa5 Qb2 39. Qf5+ comes back to the perpetual threat and 39. ... g6 40. Qxf7+ Qg7 41. QxQ KxQ 42. Nc2 won't be played by Black.

Anything more important I have overlooked in the 1st try?

Aug-14-09  niemzo: As OBIT said, the 29.Qc3 Qb3? idea doesn't work. After 30.Qc8+ Kh7 31.Re2! white is better, as 31...a3 loses to 32.Qf5+ g6 33.Qf6! with the threat Re8 and mate, while maintaining control of both a1 and f7.
Aug-14-09  YetAnotherAmateur: My line on this:
28. ... Qc5
A) 29. Qe4 Qc4 wins the rook.

B) 29. Qb8+ Kh7
30. Qe8 Qc3
31. Re2 (else Rxe1 32. Qxe1 Qxe1#) a3
32. Kf1 Qc4
and as far as I can tell white cannot stop the a pawn from promoting.

Aug-14-09  tarek1: I thought that Qb6 was the solution.
My line was 28...Qb6 29.Qe4 Qb3 30.Re2 a3 and the passed pawn should win... I missed Qb7.
Aug-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  DarthStapler: I picked Qd4 but missed that white could play Qe7
Aug-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  patzer2: For today's Friday puzzle solution, Black plays the winning move 25...Qb7!, which was set up by the sham sacrifice 25...Bxa2!!

The move 25...Qb7! and its follow-up combines the deflection (removing the guard or defender), overworked piece, double attack, weakened back rank and in at least one case the passed pawn (see <Random Visitor>'s post) tactical theme(s) to force the win of decisive material.

Aug-14-09  ounos: Very good puzzle. I went for Qb6, and admire the precision of Qb7.
Aug-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  beenthere240: <gtgloner>: you can hope that white won't notice his queen can capture on e1.
Aug-14-09  Zzyw: 28... Qb7! 29. Qc3 Qb1! 30. Re2 a3 31. Kf1 a2 32. Re8+!? Kh7 33. Ra8 Qb5+ 34. Kg1 Qc6! (35. Qa5 Qxa8!)
Aug-14-09  SuperPatzer77: The reason why White resigns after 30...Qxa2 is because 31. Qc8+ Kh7, 32. Qf5+ g6, 33. Qe4 Qb1! (double attack), 34. Qxb1 (forced) Rxb1, 35. Kf1 (White Knight on e1 is still pinned by Black Rook) a3, 36. Ke2 Rxe1+!, 37. Kxe1 a2

SuperPatzer77

Aug-14-09  miguelo: I didnt see anything, I thought that 28... Qb6 wins, due to to 29 Qc3 and 29 Qc5, but, white has 30 Qe3, but worst is that has 29 Qe4
Aug-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  johnlspouge: Friday (Difficult):

Tseshkovsky vs E Vladimirov, 1986 (28...?)

Black to play and win.

<[I found the game variation, which is not the best defense. Unfortunately, on the best defense, I went for the losing variation described by <niemzo> and <OBIT>: 28Qb7 29.Qc3 Qb3, overlooking 30.Qc8+ Kh7 31.Re2. <TheBish> and <LIFE Master AJ> explain the correct procedure 28Qb7 29.Qc3 Qb1 very nicely.]>

Aug-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: This finish reminded me of the famous Adams-Torre game with SIX consecutive queen sacs.
Aug-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  YouRang: Not *too* hard since it can be solved with trial and error, and I had time this morning to stumble through all the errors. :-\

The tactical themes are clear enough:

- We have ...Rxe1# stopped only by the white queen making the white queen an obvious target for deflection.

- We have the knight pinned.

- We have the loose white rook begging to be at one end of a double attack.

- Finally, we have passed a-pawn which will win if we can exchange or detain blacks pieces.

So, aiming for a queen deflection, I looked at 28...Qd4, 28...Qc5, 28...a3, but all can be answered by either 29.Qb8+ or 29.Qe4 (guarding the knight).

But finally I noticed one move that cannot be so answered: 28...Qb7! White has just 2 reasonable moves (Qa5 or Qc3 to guard the knight).

If 29.Qa5, we have the direct double attack, 30...Qd5 threatening the queen and rook.

If 29.Qc3, we have a more subtle double attack: 29..Qb1 threatening the rook and Rxe1#. White's only attempt to stop both threats is 30.Re2. But then black has nothing left to stop the a-pawn: 30...a3!

Black has one tactic too many for white.

Aug-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  beenthere240: I find the combination's opening sacrifice 25...Bxa2 impressive, since it suggests that black envisioned the whole sequence at that point.
Aug-14-09  A Karpov Fan: I spent much much too long thinking Qe7 lol
Aug-14-09  AugustAle: <<<patzer2: >For today's Friday puzzle solution, Black plays the winning move 25...Qb7!, which was set up by the sham sacrifice 25...Bxa2!!>> 2: 2 Too Many 25s?. The puzzle is at ..28, The real otb tutelage is of course at ..25!! Happy 2sday, err, Friday.
Aug-14-09  eaglewing: <Zzyw>: Yes! 33. Ra8 Qb5+ 34. Kg1 Qc6! is clearly winning compared to Qe2. (35. Qa5 Qxa8! or Rd8 Qxc3 Rxd1 a1Q)
Aug-14-09  David2009: Saturday's puzzle Tseshkovsky vs E Vladimirov, 1986 Black to play 28? Difficult No prizes for spotting the theme of the puzzle - back rank mate - but there are a few difficulties. White would like to escape with the loot by Qb8+ followed by Re2 and Qe5 so Black has to be careful. I cannot find a win. I have found four false trails:

(a) 28...Qb6 29 Qc3 Qc5 30 Qe3 and White breathes freely: 30... Qxe3+ 31 fxe3 Rxe1+ 32 Kf2=: Black wins the P at a4.

(b) 28...Qb6 29 Qc3 Qe6 guards c8 and forks the Ne1/Ra2 30 Ra1! guards everything;

(c) 28...Qb6 29 Qc3 Qd4 30 Qe3! (or even 30 Qc8+ Kh7 31 Re2 Qd2 32 Qe8);

(d) 28...Qb6 29 Qc3 Qb3 30 Qc8+ Kh7 31 Qf5+ = perpetual check.

My best shot: 28...Qb6 29 Qc3 Qb1 30 Re2 a3 31 Kf1 a2 32 Rxa2 Qxa2 33 Qc8 draws by perpetual check.

I have spent over half an hour on this, domestic duties call, time to admit defeat; shake hands on metaphorical the draw and look up the solution:
=======
25...Qb7 wins. Now why didn't I pursue that further earlier?

Aug-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Jimfromprovidence: Using the line first reported by <Random Visitor>, theres an interesting, lengthy continuation that happens if white instead tries to get an escape square for his king as well as get his rook over to a8. (Analysis courtesy of Rybka freeware.)

After 28Qb7 29 Qc3 Qb1 30 Re2 a3, now 31 h3?! a2 32 Re8+ Kh7 33 Ra8 is the line for the above-described strategy.


click for larger view

After 33Rxe1+ 34 Kh2 black is only up a pawn.


click for larger view

Black continues the hunt and gains success with precise play. 34 Rh1+ 35 Kg3 Qg6+ 36 Kf3 Qf5+ 37 Ke3 Qe6+ 38 Kd2 Qe1+ 39 Kd3 Qxf2! 40 Qc2 Qxc2+ 41 Kxc2 a1Q 42 Rxa1 Rxa1 does the trick.


click for larger view

Aug-14-09  TheChessGuy: Shades of Adams-Torre New Orleans 1920!
Aug-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  kdogphs: Not kidding, got this on the first try!
Aug-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  YouRang: Okay, a couple people have mentioned the "Adams-Torre" game.

Here it is: E Z Adams vs Carlos Torre, 1920 (note the pun, lol)

Jump to page #    (enter # from 1 to 3)
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any member Iincludinfgall Admin and Owners or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. If you think someone is an idiot, then provide evidence that their reasoning is invalid and/or idiotic, instead of just calling them an idiot. It's a subtle but important distinction, even in political discussions.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
28...? (Friday, August 14)
from Puzzle of the Day 2009 by Phony Benoni
28...? (Friday, August 14)
from POTD Petroff Defence Russian Game by takchess
28...Qb7! continues the combination begun with 25...Bxa2!!
from Overworked Piece by patzer2
Fi - "Q" Black to move, (28... '?'). [Fri; Aug. 14th, 2009.]
from "ChessGames" >Problem of The Day< (2009) by LIFE Master AJ
Nabel's favorite games
by Nabel
28...? (August 14, 2009)
from Friday Puzzles, 2004-2010 by Phony Benoni


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC