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|Sep-09-09|| ||BraveUlysses: O, the joy of the knights.
What a pretty and truly fascinating game... it looks like a show-jumping event with the white horses not hitting an obstacle as they romp around the black position!
Karjakin basically overpowered/monstered his opponent in what is a very complex middlegame- the central rooks and the poor black Q position were crucial.
|Sep-09-09|| ||arsen387: White Knights in Bilbao!|
|Sep-09-09|| ||kackhander: "ballad of bilbao baggins" would have been better.|
|Sep-09-09|| ||kackhander: ...or maybe they already used that last year.|
|Sep-09-09|| ||kevin86: Make it inside the park! That would be unusual.|
|Sep-09-09|| ||Gambitor: <I MUST be missing something blatant here, but why not 38... Kg8?>
Come on, it's just a aesthetic detail to make Karjakin's great combination even prettier.. of course there's no fork with 38...Kg8, but the position is lost anyway.|
|Sep-09-09|| ||Chessmensch: No wonder Karjakin did so well. He plays with BOTH hands (See his Chessgames pic). :-)|
|Sep-09-09|| ||ClassZPlaya: Why 18. ... Re7 and not 18. ... d5 immediately? Seems like Black lost time with 18. ... Re7 unless I'm missing something.|
|Sep-09-09|| ||ClassZPlaya: Just noticed <whiteshark: <18...d5!> equalises> .... Yeah, it certainly looks a lot better than 18. ... Re7|
|Sep-09-09|| ||YouRang: Pun = "Dealt a grand slam"
Evidently referring to the context of playing bridge: <winning all of the tricks in a hand of bridge>
Funny, the term <grand slam> is most familiar to me in the context of baseball (a home run with the bases loaded). Yet, this definition didn't even appear on the Google dictionary.
They DID mentioned:
- the "grand slam of tennis"
- a race horse named "Grand Slam"
- the "grand slam of golf"
- it's a technique used in fly fishing
- it's the name of a British TV show
- there is a rock band called "Grand Slam"
- even the "grand slam of darts" (for crying out loud)
But not the baseball term. :-\
|Sep-09-09|| ||YouRang: Apparently, black needed 29...Bxd5. After 29...Bg7, things fell apart rather rapidly for black.|
Excellent game by Karjakin, though.
It's impressive how he quietly got both bishops, both knights, and his queen in array against black's king position [digram after 19 moves]
click for larger view
Within a few moves, he also had both rooks controlling the center.
It's hard to believe he's married now. He still looks like he's 14.
|Sep-09-09|| ||ROO.BOOKAROO: An elementary question: Why not 5. ...Nxe4? when the e4 pawn is unprotected. Where is the risk? Most club players would take it.|
|Sep-09-09|| ||sfeuler: Ok, I can't see what White gets after 37...Qxd7 - I'm only seeing 38.Nxe5 Qe6 39.Nxf7 Qxe1+ 40.Kh2 Qd2 - There's got to be something better for White!|
|Sep-09-09|| ||corbinamman: sfeuler, I'm pretty sure after 38...Qe6 you'd see 39. Qxf7 Qxf7 40. Nxf7.|
|Sep-09-09|| ||WhiteRook48: this is stunning|
|Sep-09-09|| ||m0nkee1: after 13 .. Nb8 blacks got nowhere to go.. Nd7? so it could have protected the castle? after that Katjakin seems to march on the king! after 19 you can see trouble!|
|Sep-09-09|| ||chillowack: Right around move 32 or so, Grischuk must have realized something had gone horribly wrong somewhere....|
|Sep-10-09|| ||sfeuler: <corbinamman> Thanks, that makes sense - didn't even consider 39.Qxf7!|
|Sep-18-09|| ||ROO.BOOKAROO: At the lower level of my comprehension, why exactly 15. ...Qc8?|
|May-30-10|| ||ethan stech: <ROO.BOOKAROO: An elementary question: Why not 5. ...Nxe4? when the e4 pawn is unprotected. Where is the risk? Most club players would take it.>|
Black can, but he does not gain a pawn. This is called the "Open Variation" in which White plays 6.d4 and Black cannot take the pawn because the Knight on e4 gets dangerously pinned. Thus White usually can play dxe5 later on.
If you Google it you should be able to get more information and specific variations.
|Dec-18-10|| ||fisayo123: Sensational game really,karjakin's ability to calculate what happens after n*f7 is incredible.I could comprehend its greatness myself but it is indeed stunning.|
|Jun-19-11|| ||DrMAL: 18...Re7 (instead of immediate 18...d5) gives white better position with 19.Ng3 especially when followed by 19...d5 now instead of 19...Nxg4. |
But then 28.Qg3 g6 29.Qg5 gives white's advantage away to 29...Bxd5 30.Rxd5 Re6 31.Nh4 and Grischuk misses this.
Instead, black makes a subtle blunder with 29...Bg7 leading to one of two winning sequences the stronger of which Karjakin starts on (the other was 30.Bxf7 gxf5 31.Nxf5 Rxf7 32.Nd6 Qf8 33.Qxh5+ Kg8 34.Qxf7+ Qxf7 35. Nxf7).
Stronger for black was 30...Qe8 instead of 30...Qc7 and then stronger for white was 31.Bxf7 instead of 31.Ng4 there followed several other inaccuracies but the result was the same.
Truly fabulous play by both sides, this game was extremely complicated and Karjakin proved to be even more accurate.
|Oct-19-11|| ||hedgeh0g: <ethan stech><<ROO.BOOKAROO: An elementary question: Why not 5. ...Nxe4? when the e4 pawn is unprotected. Where is the risk? Most club players would take it.>
Black can, but he does not gain a pawn. This is called the "Open Variation" in which White plays 6.d4 and Black cannot take the pawn because the Knight on e4 gets dangerously pinned. Thus White usually can play dxe5 later on.>|
Although it should be noted that Black <can> be stubborn and play 6...exd4!? 7.Re1 d5 8.Nxd4 Bd6! 9.Nxc6 Bxh2+! 10.Kh1 (Kxh1 Qh4+) 10...Qh4 11.Qd8+ Qxd8 12.Nxd8+ Kxd8 and when the smoke has cleared, Black has reached an endgame with R+2P for two pieces. Although material is roughly balanced, White probably has the edge, since he can form a dark-squared blockade with his pieces. Still, this line remains relatively unexplored and I doubt that most people are familiar with it, since everybody just assumes ...exd4 is unplayable.
I should also point out that 8.Bg5 is a sharper try for White, which keeps the middlegame going.
|Oct-20-11|| ||sevenseaman: A complex and very good game that merits deep analysis. I see no video effort.|
|Aug-17-12|| ||Conrad93: I have never seen 15. Qf3 in this opening.
What's the point behind it?
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