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Vladimir Nenarokov vs Peter Arsenievich Romanovsky
USSR Championship (1927)  ·  Torre Attack: Classical Defense (A46)  ·  0-1
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Feb-09-11  Fuegoverde: 48... Rg1+, 49 Kxg1! gxf2+d, 50 any K move Qg2++
Feb-09-11  knight knight: 48...Rg1+ 49. Kxg1 gxf2++ 50. Kh1/h2/xf2 Qg2#
Feb-09-11
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  johnlspouge: < <mrsaturdaypants> wrote: [snip] The epaulette mate (b) is an especially nice touch. [snip] >

A trivial point: the position is a Gueridon mate, which resembles an epaulette mate but is indeed different. (A "gueridon" is a type of table [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%C3%... ]).

I have a list of mates at my chessforum. Names can aid memory and pattern recognition, in chess and elsewhere. I recognized the gueridon mate before being consciously aware of the entire variation, e.g., as I am sure others did.

Feb-09-11
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  Patriot: 48...Rg1+! sets up a fatal double-check, which everyone has already covered.

But somehow this seems funny. Last night I played in a 3-round swiss (G/30) and each one of my opponent's (all lower-rated) played solid chess. No one gave me this kind of opportunity or any kind of edge I could take advantage of in that time control--except my last opponent. I told him after the game that I didn't think I had any kind of advantage throughout the game and basically I just waited for him to make a mistake. The game I lost was in time-pressure with about 6 seconds remaining--he had 5. Another game was a draw because my opponent played solid chess. And then I open this site and there's a simple combination right before my eyes.

I will definitely show the games to my instructor and get some insight. It may very well be that I'm playing into dull positions.

I really like the puzzles on this site, but it's a reminder that this is only a small part of chess. Because what do you do when you don't know what to do? For example, positions that don't contain puzzle-type combinations and no significant positional advantages. For one thing, don't lose on time. You could play on, making safe moves, and wait for a mistake. Or perhaps try not to get into those dull positions to begin with. This makes me wonder how many openings evolve into brilliant games only because the players allowed tension to build. But when a player simply breaks the tension and exchanges (where a GM usually wouldn't) or closes off the position, the game becomes dull and drawish.

Does anyone have any advice?

<Once>, I saw where you were rooting for me. Thanks! I lost points but don't feel bad about it because it seems my opponent's played well and so did I. At least that's what I will think until my next chess lesson... :-)

Feb-09-11  Brandon plays: Rg1+ Kxg1 gxf2+ Qg2#
Feb-09-11  castle dweller: by the time we get to move 48 . .

not a very complicated position - only a few pieces on any consequence are involved.

Like the way black pushes his troops forward to create it, though!!

Feb-09-11  castle dweller: <castledweller> . . . . meant "of any consequence"
Feb-09-11  TheaN: Wednesday 9 February 2011

<48....?>

Material: White up, R+N vs 2P, hm

Candidates: Rh2†, <[Rg1†]>

-ML-
Of course, the material disbalance gives away mate is pretty much forced.

<48....Rg1†!> aw, just give another rook. Care.

<49.Kxg1 gxf2††> a double check is not a winning move only in rare occasions.

<50.Kxf2 (Kh1/h2) Qg2‡ 0-1> is nice.

Feb-09-11
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  sevenseaman: Exquisite! Gueridon mate? Its good it has a name. Associative memory does help one to remember/recall.

Juz naam nahin soorat-e-aalam mujhe manzoor
Juz wahm nahin hasti-e-ashiya mere aagey
- Mirza Ghalib

Feb-09-11
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  johnlspouge: < <sevenseaman> wrote : Exquisite! Gueridon mate? Its good it has a name. Associative memory does help one to remember/recall. [snip] >

Hi, <sevenseaman>.

The named mates also provide a structure for remembering related unnamed mates. For example, I think of the epaulette mate in the corner


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as a "half-epaulette" mate. Many if not most mating positions can be related to named mates in a some manner. Again in general, even simple processing of information helps reinforce recognition.

You obviously enjoy a good name (as do I). The best chess name I have ever enjoyed, I learned from <MostlyAverageJoe>. It is the Trebuchet position, the simplest zugzwang:


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You can find the trebuchet here [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuc... ]. You must agree, the name is wonderfully apt :)

Feb-09-11
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  twin phoenix: <patriot> all i can say is i've been there. some days you just aren't seeing it or there are other times our opponent actually plays well. (imagine that!!) all you can do is tip your cap and move on. i got so frustated at a tourney 3 years ago i lost all my games except 1 and that 1 was like pulling teeth to win. almost gave chess up. every tournament since i've had much better success. don't forget how great it feels to win! for me moving away from chess for a little while helps renew my interest. i always come back...
Feb-09-11
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  kevin86: A great finish! The rook sac sets up the double check-with a queen mate at g2 to follow,independent of the three square option of the white king,who MUST move,since it is a double check. The pretties is after Kxf2 Qxg2# is an epaulette mate!

48...Rg1+!! 49 Kxg1 gxf2+ 50 kf2(or h1 or h2) Qxg2#

Feb-09-11
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  Patriot: <twin phoenix> Thanks, I appreciate your encouragement! I emailed my instructor and one thing he emphasizes is to play over lots of annotated master games to get a better feel of how to squeeze out advantages and generally how strong players deal with different positions. But I also think it's the way I played the opening in at least one of the games. For example (I was black), 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nf6 5.Bg5 Bg7 6.Bxf6 Bxf6 and he could've played 7.Nxf6 Qxf6 where many pieces are traded, leading to a dull game. Playing it this way against someone over 300 rating points below me probably isn't a good idea! I would say 3...c5 is a better try. Perhaps some would even advise not to play the French against a lower-rated player (or anyone else!).
Feb-09-11  Akavall: <Patriot> Rubenstein French is probably the last thing you want to play, if you want to have good counter-play as black :).
Feb-09-11  gofer: Black has created a "Perfect Storm". White's rooks and queen have positioned themselves perfectly to create a mating net for its own king. Black has also managed to get its rook into the perfect position to fall on his sword and start the attack from which white cannot escape... <48 ... Rg1+ 49 Kxg1 gxf2+ 50 Kxf2/Kh2/Kh1 Qg2#> Game Over!
Feb-09-11  rilkefan: <<johnlspouge>:I have a list of mates at my chessforum.>

But not the gueridon, if I'm looking at the right place. Thanks btw for the link.

Feb-09-11  stst: also fun and a slower grill would be 48...PxR, if (A) 49. QxP RxQ, (B)49.Ng3, PxR promotes to Q! 50.Qxe1Q RxN and Black got more than enough to crush through
Feb-09-11
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  Sastre: If 48...gxf2, White can draw with 49.Qe7+ Qf7 (49...Kg8 50.Qd8+ Kh7 51.Re7+ Kh6 52.Qh8+ Kg5 53.Rg7) 50.Qxf7+ Kxf7 51.Rc1.
Feb-09-11
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  Medieval Knight: White suffers an ignominious death by suffocation.
Feb-09-11
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  sevenseaman: Thanks <johnsplouge>. I quite enjoyed delving into Gueridon and Trebuchet mates. You made my day; your diagram looks anti-zugswang to me. Perhaps it should have been;


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Where side on move is in zugzwang because it is forced to move the K.

Feb-09-11
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  johnlspouge: < <sevenseaman> wrote: Thanks <johnsplouge>. I quite enjoyed delving into Gueridon and Trebuchet mates. You made my day; >

You are welcome.

< your diagram looks anti-zugswang to me. >

Thanks for the correction. You are right: I reversed White and Black.

Feb-09-11
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  Marmot PFL: Found this much faster than yesterday, with Rg1+ Kxg1 gf2 dbl+ setting up what I thought was an epaulette mate, Kf2 Qg2 mate. However this is evidently the wrong term, it's actually the Swallow's tail mate, also known as the Guéridon mate, according to wikipedia.
Feb-09-11
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  johnlspouge: < <rilkefan> wrote: <<johnlspouge>:I have a list of mates at my chessforum.>

But not the gueridon, if I'm looking at the right place. Thanks btw for the link. >

Hi, <rilkefan>. You are welcome.

I added this game as a "Gueridon Mate". Thanks for reminding me :)

My external links to named mates have thinned over the years, so I should just put the basic positions up myself (which I can do now).

Feb-09-11
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  David2009: Nenarokov vs P Romanovsky, 1927 Black 48...

As so often setting up a double check is the key. Black sets it up with 48...Rg1+ 49 Kxg1 (forced) gxf2+ 50 Kxf2 Qg2# (gridiron mate). If 49 Kh1 or Kh2 then Qg2#. 48...gxf2?? is a crazy risk because of 50 Qe7+. Time to check:
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Useful comments by <patzer2>, <Sastre> and <once> on the might-have beens.

<Sastre: If 48...gxf2,>


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<White can draw with 49.Qe7+ Qf7 (49...Kg8 50.Qd8+ Kh7 51.Re7+ Kh6 52.Qh8+ Kg5 53.Rg7) 50.Qxf7+ Kxf7 51.Rc1> Black does retain a nagging initiative in this line after 51...Rg1+ and it is hard for White to unravel: meanwhile Black threatens to penetrate on the d file. Instead, after 49 Qe7+ (hoping for 49...Kh6?? 50 Rf6! winning) 49...Qf7 50.Qxf7+ Kxf7 51.Rd1 may be better: 51...Rg1+! 52.Kh2 Kf6 53.Kxh3 Ke5! (not Kf5 Ng3+ breaks the bind) 54.Kh2 Kf4 and neither side can progress.

Crafty End Game Trainer link to try out these variations defending as White: http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t...

Feb-09-11
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  fm avari viraf: White's King is in a mating net & Black's 48...Rg1+ brings the curtain down since 49.Kxg1 gxf2+ 50.K-moves & Qg2#
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