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|Sep-28-09|| ||virginmind: had to go around move 19 and now returned just to find out i've got a perfect guess in YouRang competition :)|
|Sep-28-09|| ||Eyal: <Carlsen's 10.f4 and 15.d5 gave him a very super cool space advantage>|
Yeah, even if Black's position was still playable until move 23, it's quite uncomfortable once White gets 15.d5. That's why, instead of 13...0-0, it's probably better to play in this line <13...Bh3> 14.Bf3 (forced, to defend against mate on g2) Qf5 15.Re1 d5 (but not immediately 13...d5? because of 14.Bd3), as in Morozevich vs Kramnik, 2001.
|Sep-28-09|| ||zarg: In this field of players, Leko has historically been the most difficult opponent for Carlsen, having only a 35% score against him in classical. Also, Carlsen has been an unusually long time away from tourney chess now, so him starting off by beating Leko for the first time in R1, was a surprise... to me at least. :)|
Perhaps, Leko was having flashbacks to one of his losses vs GK, and tried too much avoiding walking into a novelty. Judging from the moves, Leko looked more nervous than Carlsen did...
|Sep-28-09|| ||rogge: Yeah, "nervous" and "psychological problems", I don't get it :)|
|Sep-28-09|| ||Bradah: Perhaps Leko thought he was playing somebody else? :o)|
|Sep-28-09|| ||Eyal: Btw, after 29...Nxh4:
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Carlsen had to avoid an immediate 30.gxh4?? Nxf2, and now after 31.Kxf2 Qxh4+ Black has a winning attack.
If Black tries to change move order and play 29...Nxf2, then after 30.Kxf2 Nxh4:
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White has 31.Rh1!
|Sep-28-09|| ||vonKrolock: <16...h8> Related as played quickly - could be some 'counter-preparation' ?! Anyway, further my comment was anticipated <"An original move which Leko played within few seconds after Re1. Perhaps he wants Ng8-f6, which would bring the Knight to more active position."> chessdom|
|Sep-28-09|| ||hedgeh0g: I think Kasparov's influence has already started to come through in Magnus...|
|Sep-28-09|| ||theagenbiteofinwit: A beautiful game by Carlsen.|
|Sep-28-09|| ||weisyschwarz: "Unsolid" is a good way of describing the play of the usually unflappable Leko. Magnus on his way to winning this one early on, defeating his most nagging opponent.|
|Sep-28-09|| ||kurtrichards: Scotch Game. Shade of Kasparov, maybe? Hmmm...|
|Sep-28-09|| ||DeepTrouble: Natalie wrote:
<And Magnus had obvious difficulties in converting the position, feeling nervous.>
Not sure if I agree with that characterization :) Although Magnus didn't always find the best move he managed to keep the advantage and put Leko under sufficient pressure. Magnus has said several times in interviews that he doesn't necessarily seek out the objectively strongest moves, but practical moves which he feels comfortable with. As long as you make good moves and avoid the bad ones, it doesn't matter that much if you don't always play the best moves.
I think Magnus played a very good game, and I would rather applaud him for his victory rather than criticizing him for not always playing the strongest moves.
|Sep-28-09|| ||DeepTrouble: Natalia:
<Generally yes. There's a thin line between wasting time in simple positions & getting into time trouble and missing the win by rushing.>
With all due respect, I wouldn't say that he was playing simple positions: This game was for the most part open and tactical by nature, his king was exposed and he had to watch out for any possible counterplay by Leko. It may be easy to see the best moves in such positions when using a computer at home, but it's not that easy for a human in a tournament setting.
Magnus has missed the win several times before because he was rushing moves in won positions, and he's probably trying to learn from those mistakes by spending more time in critical or superior positions. He spent his time wisely today, I think, and never let go of the advantage he got in the opening.
|Sep-28-09|| ||timhortons: <Shade of Kasparov, maybe? Hmmm...>|
"the scotch game, was a rather minor line for most of the 20th century, until it was <rescued from obscurity by worldchamp gary kasparov around 1990>.However,after playing it frequently for a decade, he abruptly gave it up,saying that it was <"more risky" than the spanish and unlikely to give white advantage against perfect defense>(though its not clear which defense he feared)"
<larry kaufman- BOOK: the chess advantage in black and white>
|Sep-28-09|| ||reyjf: Lenko moved his queen 4 times and queen knight 3 times in the first 14 moves. Two pieces moved 50% of the time. Seems he just let Magnus do whatever he wanted.|
|Sep-28-09|| ||whatthefat: That's all very well in retrospect, but it's not as though Leko sat down at the board and said, "right, I'm going to see if I can use 7 of my first 14 moves just moving my queen and queen's knight around".|
|Sep-28-09|| ||timhortons: leko play bad, thats it.no magic.|
|Sep-28-09|| ||reyjf: If your going to attack like Lenk tried he better have a better plan. Just moving his queen and queen's knight around is exactly what he did.|
|Sep-28-09|| ||timhortons: <Especially surprising was Leko's extremely unconfident and unsolid play. >|
leko out soon and new ones among the junior will come in, what a bore always the same player and the same people playing over and over again, studying the same games and drawing all the time.
here we see a win its like we seen a martian jet for real.
|Sep-28-09|| ||Ezzy: CARLSEN,MAGNUS - LEKO,PETER [C45]
Nanjing Pearl Spring Tourney Nanjing/China (1), 28.09.2009
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4< Carlsen's played the Scotch 4 times as a 13 year old, but the last and only time in recent years was back in 2007 against Kamsky in the World chess cup. That game was a draw. So we may have some Kasparov influence here. Kasparov's no stranger to the Scotch, as he's played it in 3 of his world championship matches. (Karpov, Anand, Short) >3...exd4 4.Nxd4 Bc5< Leko used to play 4...Nf6, but now always seems to play 4...Bc5> 5.Be3 <Carlsen played 5 Nxc6 against Kamsky.> 5...Qf6 6.c3 Nge7 7.Bc4 Ne5 <Leko's had this position as black before against Morozevich in the Mexico world championships 2007. Morozevich played 8 Bb3.> 8.Be2 Qg6 9.0–0 d6 10.f4 Qxe4< This is all theory which will probably have to be revised after this game.> 11.Bf2 Bxd4 12.cxd4 N5g6 13.g3 0–0 14.Nc3 Qf5 15.d5 a6 16.Re1 Kh8< This may be the novelty. 1 game in the database with 16...Re8> 17.Rc1 Bd7 18.Bf3< It seems Carlsen has excellent compensation for the pawn. 2 bishops, more space and more potential for his pieces. Black's knights have nowhere to go (hence 16..Kh8 to bring the knight to g8-f6), the knight on g6 is in danger of being trapped with h4-h5. Black's queen looks a little uneasy. All in all I would say a nice position for Carlsen.> 18...Rac8 19.Qb3 <Forcing terrible weaknesses on the queenside.> 19...b5 20.Ne2 Qh3 21.Nd4 Bg4 22.Bg2 Qh5 23.h4 Ng8? <Allowing the white rook into c6 is not good, but what can black do. Carlsen controls both open files with his rooks and can double up on any of them causing havoc.But 23...Ng8?, anythings better than that> 24.Rc6 Nf6 25.Rxa6 Bd7 26.Nxb5 Rb8 27.a4< From being a pawn down to being a pawn up in the blink of an eye. >27...Ng4 <White has to be careful here. A small slip up could give black the chance to get right back into the game. All based on a possible 28...Nxh4 sacrifice.> 28.Bf3 <Black escapes with at least a draw if white plays something like - [28.Bd4?? Nxh4 29.gxh4 Qxh4 30.Rd1 (30.Re2 Qh2+ 31.Kf1 Qxf4+ 32.Bf3 Rfe8 33.Qc3 Nh2+ 34.Kg2 Bxb5 35.axb5 Nxf3 36.Bxg7+ Kg8 37.Qxf3 Qxf3+ 38.Kxf3 Rxe2 39.Kxe2 Kxg7 Looking good for black.) 30...Qh2+ 31.Kf1 Qxf4+ 32.Kg1 Qh2+ Draw]> 28...Qh6< This is a miserable place for the queen. Even the knight on g6 can't move to give his queen some breathing space. 28...Qf5 was much better. This is now just an aweful position for black.> 29.Qc4 Nxh4< Desparation time.> 30.Bxg4< [30.gxh4 Nxf2 31.f5 (31.Kxf2 Qxh4+ 32.Kf1 Bh3+ 33.Ke2 Rfe8+ 34.Be4 Bg4+ 35.Kd2 Qf2+ 36.Re2 Qxf4+ 37.Re3 f5 38.Bd3 Qxe3+ Winning) 31...Nh3+ 32.Kh2 Bxf5 and black's pieces come alive.] >30...Bxg4 31.gxh4 Bf3< Last chance, threatening mate in 3 by 32...Qg6+ but Carlsen hasn't fallen into a trap like that since he was 6 months old :-) >32.f5< Leko should just resign now. >32...Qh5 33.Qf4 Bxd5 34.Nxc7 Bb7 35.Rb6 f6 36.Bd4 Qf7 37.Ne6 Rg8 38.Kf2 Rbc8 39.Bc3 Bd5 40.a5 Rc4 41.Nd4 Ba8 42.Qxd6 Qh5 43.Qf4 Rcc8 44.Rbe6 1–0
A demolition job if I've ever seen one. Leko got into an aweful mess. His pieces weren't working and had nowhere to go. I don't think I'm being unfair to use the analogy - 'Being run over by a steamroller.'
Excellent game by Magnus! An awesome display of crushing your opponent. This game should carry an x-rated certificate.
First ever win for Carlsen against Leko. Difficult to believe after this massacre.
|Sep-28-09|| ||A Karpov Fan: Carlsen trained by Kasparov and now playing the Scotch Game|
Bad bad news for the other players -lol-
|Sep-28-09|| ||timhortons: i dont think bent larsen trained by petrosian could stop fischer from being a world champion.|
magnus is a force to reckon , take away kasparov and he will still win these game.
i cant wait for the time for magnus to become a champion, other wise he will just become another ljubo, ljubo once upon a time is second to somebody.
he should be, otherwise hes a failure. i dont think his fans could accept him not to be.
|Sep-28-09|| ||tamar: One concern: will Magnus stay interested in chess if as I suspect, he has dedicated himself to work harder at the board even in obviously winning situations.|
He has always been more one to see everything at a glance, like Morphy, and it must be torture to go through all the variations ala Kasparov/Alekhine
If he loses his zest for the game, then the benefits from this approach will
not last past the goal line of the world championship.
|Sep-28-09|| ||Eyal: I think that some of the talk during the game about Carlsen "wasting time" was related to the fact that people thought, mistakenly, there are only 90 minutes for the whole game (plus increments). But actually there's a second time control - it's 40 moves in 90 minutes plus 1 hour, with no increments. So when, in the later stages of the game, Carlsen "wasted the time advantage" that he gained from the opening, he wasn't really taking any risk - he got to move 40 with no advantage on the clock, but with a completely winning position (which he basically had since move 24 and certainly 29) and plenty of time left to finish the game.|
|Sep-28-09|| ||zarg: <Ezzy: Carlsen's played the Scotch 4 times as a 13 year old, but the last and only time in recent years was back in 2007 against Kamsky in the World chess cup. >|
A more recent Scotch game by Carlsen
Morozevich vs Carlsen, 2008
and at the World Cup 2007 he played another
Naiditsch vs Carlsen, 2007
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