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| Oct-08-09 | | e4ia: lol; I thought he was aka "Drawkovich"! |
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| Oct-08-09 | | whiteshark: So Leko transformed it into a ♖♖ endgame. It is said having a drawish tendency... |
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| Oct-08-09 | | reyjf: Can we switch to the Topov game? |
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Oct-08-09
 | | Natalia Pogonina: <dylam: I dont know about h4 (instead of qg4). wasnt there g5 for black and h4 falls?> After g5 Rb4 Rb4 ab and if Qb4 then Qf5 Ka1 and Black has some advantage (Ideas to consider: h3, Ra8, Qf2). 
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| Oct-08-09 | | dakgootje: well... this looks like a dead draw. |
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| Oct-08-09 | | e4ia: HELLO CHESSGAMES MANAGEMENT!
Can we please switch from this clearly yawn ending
and go to the black winning maybe Topalov game?!
and in the future, replacement game default "policy" be the next player's game who is closest in standings to the top board? THANK YOU! |
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| Oct-08-09 | | marcwordsmith: one thing about Topalov, he rarely plays a boring game. I'm looking at Wang Yue-Topa on chessok and chessbomb. I wish Topalov hadn't been such a jerk at Elista. It would be fun just to be an unqualified fan. |
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| Oct-08-09 | | twinlark: how to win friends and influence people... |
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Oct-08-09
 | | tpstar: After 28. Rc4 if Black played 28 ... h4 I wonder about isolating the Ph4 with 29. Qh6 Qh2 30. Rf4:
click for larger viewNow the threat is 31. g5 & 32. Qxh4, but White might not have time for that. I like how Leko added 1. d4 to his game and he seems to be trying harder to win lately. Part of the "Drawko" label is his impressive ability to hold worse positions, i.e. drawing instead of losing. |
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Oct-08-09
| | Natalia Pogonina: <dakgootje: well... this looks like a dead draw.> At Leko and Jakovenko's level it is. However, one should know how to play such endgames. I wouldn't be surprised if many untitled players lost it. |
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| Oct-08-09 | | whiteshark: Will they take the draw see-saw with <33...Rxb5 34.axb5 Rf6 35.Rc3 Rf1+ 36.Rc1 Rf6>? |
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| Oct-08-09 | | twinlark: <marcwordsmith>
I feel a bit sorry for Topa...I think many of his problems are more about Dainalov than him. |
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| Oct-08-09 | | marcwordsmith: I'm inclined to agree with you <Twinlark>. You can't much more gracious than this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_W3... Say, Natalia, care to comment on the mercurial character of your fellow GM, Veselin Topalov? |
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| Oct-08-09 | | dakgootje: <At Leko and Jakovenko's level it is. However, one should know how to play such endgames. I wouldn't be surprised if many untitled players lost it.> Certainly.
With both sides having little pawn islands on opposite sides of the board, I'm sure there could be instructive value in the game. I just fear a pair of rooks will come off and the draw will be agreed the next move, so that both instructive and entertainment value are lost. |
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| Oct-08-09 | | euripides: I'm a bit surprised this is thought to be a dead draw even at the super-GM level - pawn races in rook endings are often very delicate, as in Botvinnik-Fischer, and I would have thought Black could activate his king and push the g pawn. Maybe White has a simple drawing plan ? |
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| Oct-08-09 | | e4ia: I agree post <is his impressive ability to hold worse positions, i.e. drawing instead of losing.> One can learn a lot from Leko's consistent "911" in complex endgames,
(as well as his consistent top ten FIDE average all these years!) and is a R + P ending master! I just feel we should "get" the highest in standings pairing after the covered game is an early draw.....Leko or no Leko! In this cae, it was "no Leko"! |
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Oct-08-09
| | Natalia Pogonina: <marcwordsmith> I can't comment much on his character & behavior, need more info to make a sound judgement. However, he's a great chess player, one of my favorites, and a rather attractive man. :-) http://www.pogonina.com/images/true... |
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| Oct-08-09 | | euripides: ... I suppose if Black exchanges rooks White can play Kc1-d2-c3-b3, though BLack might play Kf6-e5 and g5-g4 in the interim. |
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| Oct-08-09 | | marcwordsmith: Natalia, you're much cuter than he is. And I'm sure that would be the consensus in this room. :-) |
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| Oct-08-09 | | virginmind: they've drawn |
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Oct-08-09
| | Natalia Pogonina: Draw agreed, Leko is acting nice. |
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| Oct-08-09 | | marcwordsmith: okay then. So much for those tricky pawn race endings . . . |
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| Oct-08-09 | | e4ia: Well, Leko has a gorgeous/cute wife and no doubt Natalia has ditto in her husband! So, that's a clearly drawn ending to this "thanks for the great coverage", as well! |
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| Oct-08-09 | | Eyal: <tpstar: After 28. Rc4 if Black played 28 ... h4 I wonder about isolating the Ph4 with 29. Qh6 Qh2 30. Rf4:
click for larger viewNow the threat is 31. g5 & 32. Qxh4, but White might not have time for that.> No, he doesn't - 30...Rbc8 and Black has a winning attack... 28...h4 might have been a way to keep the game more interesting. |
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| Oct-08-09 | | euripides: ... e.g. 41.Rc1 Rxc1+ 42.Kxc1 Kf6 43.Kd2 Ke5 43.Kc3 g5 44.Kxb3 g4 45.Rb7 Rf8 looks sharp and might be good for Black. But 43.Ke3 is better when it is Black who looks under pressure as Rb5+ and a5 are possible. So perhps White gains more from the activation of the kings. Another approach would be 42...Rc8+ e.g. 43.Kd2 Rc2 44.Rxb3 Rc4 winning a pawn back, but after 45.Ra3 White might he a shade ahead in the pawn race. |
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