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Vladimir Kramnik vs Viswanathan Anand
Tal Memorial (2009), Moscow RUS, rd 2, Nov-06
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange. Modern Exchange Variation (D85)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Nov-06-09  Marmot PFL: < Mateo > Even in that line white has Bc5 and Bh5 when it is hard to defend f7.
Nov-06-09  vonKrolock: Kramnik sacrifice his ♕, or call it an exchange, or a combination - In this particular position the ♖+♗ are evaluated equal to her majesty, so other factors - like the advanced ♙, has also a saying... But maybe Anand could now 'suggest' the exchange of the 'c6' ♙ for his distant 'a7' ♙, thus turning the game to a ♔-sided manoeuvering struggle with no ♙♙s race to turn it sharply tactical ... - But wait... there's a 'zwischenzug' ♗d6... and the counter 'zwischenzug' g5-g4!? - Nevertheless, Anand prefers to take ♕ x ♙c6 first !
Nov-06-09  zenithooligan: this game is going on at a level far beyond my ability to understand. why did white not try to hang onto the passed c pawn? i thought that was the whole idea of the exchange.
Nov-06-09  AdrianP: OK - now I'm struggling to see White's big idea...
Nov-06-09
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  Mateo: <Eyal: <Mateo: <Eyal: In the line I gave earlier, after 21...Qc2 (to this square in order to prevent Rc1) Black has to give up the exchange for the c pawn after 22.Bd6> what about 22...g4 23.Bxg4 Qxc6?> Yes, you're right, that's also possible - then perhaps 24.Rc7 (24.Rxa7? Rd8 25.e5 Bxe5) Qb6 25.Rd7. How do you evaluate this position?> As equal, because in order to save the exchange Black will have to give White counterplay on the king side, I think. 25.Rd7! Rc8 26.Bh5 f5.
Nov-06-09  Eisenheim: its hard for me to accept that white has any advantage here. to me black is winning. i would love to see some creative inspiring play here to prove me wrong, but also, i feel the game will go to anand. yet, we have to consider white steered it here, so maybe we are in store for a treat
Nov-06-09  vonKrolock: <24...♕b6>


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Keeping the 'a7' ♙ is advantageous for black... the coronation square 'a1' is of the same colour of the black prelate (I mean the ♗ in g7) - other factors being of transitory effect, except the virtual blocking of the a1-h8 diagonal by means of a ♙ e4-e5...

Nov-06-09  Eisenheim: i think white needs to defend against 25 ...Bd4.
Nov-06-09  pvk: may be Rd7
Nov-06-09  Eyal: The silicon monster at chessok gives the line me and <Mateo> were discussing, btw - only with 26...f6 rather than f5, with a 0.00 eval.
Nov-06-09  pawn to QB4: hi zenithooligan - there wasn't a way to hang onto c6. 22.e5 to protect it with that bishop on f3 would have been met by 22...g4.
Nov-06-09  Eyal: <there wasn't a way to hang onto c6. 22.e5 to protect it with that bishop on f3 would have been met by 22...g4.>

The real question, I think, is why he didn't protect it when it was still on the d-file, with 20.d6...

Nov-06-09  zenithooligan: thank you pawn, i see that now...i guess that's why i am sitting here at my computer with a beer and they are the ones playing chess :)
Nov-06-09  whatthefat: Tough position. I'm looking at 25.e5 and 25.Bxf8 here.
Nov-06-09  Eyal: Seems like we're heading for a dead draw: 26. Bc7 Rxd7 27. Bxb6 Rxd1+ 28. Bxd1 axb6.
Nov-06-09  whatthefat: Okay, surely drawn now.
Nov-06-09  Marmot PFL: No matter - carlsen-morozevich is also a good game.
Nov-06-09  Thorski: On to Carlsen - Moro!
Nov-06-09  dakgootje: heh, anand didn't take more than 30 minutes of thinking time over the whole game :|
Nov-06-09  vonKrolock: <25...♖d8> can be dubbed a <draw offer>, but due to the strong white pressure over 'f7' in other lines, possibly this was black's best option anyway
Nov-06-09  Bureaucrat: Do we get Carlsen-Moro?
Nov-06-09  virginmind: <Bureaucrat> only the super-premium members get that one :)
Nov-06-09  yalie: Looks like Kramnik learnt something from Bonn. When faced with an Anand novelty, do not try to win on principle - just force the draw (here with 20..dxc instead of 20..d6).
Nov-09-09  yalie: this game annotated by Kramnik himself. very fascinating!

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Nov-02-13  csmath: Wild line that has never been analyzed to my knowledge:

14. ...Rd8 [as opposed to the game's g5]
15. d5 g5
16. Bg3 Nd7
17. Rxb7 Nc5
18. Nxe7 Bf6
19. Rxf7 Kxf7
20. Nxg5+ hxg5
21. Bxg4 Qb3
22. Bh5+ Kg7
23. e5 Be7
24. Qxb3 Kxb3
25. d6 Bf8
26. f4 Nd2
27. Re1 a5
28. fxg5 a4
29. e6

and into a draw.

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