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Magnus Carlsen vs Levon Aronian
Tal Memorial (2009), Moscow RUS, rd 4, Nov-08
Semi-Slav Defense: Meran Variation (D47)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Nov-08-09  kamalakanta: <Sneaky: I think this "cold that's going around" is overrated. Carlsen with pneumonia could beat most of us on our best day.

Who was it who said something like "I have never beaten a healthy opponent!" ? I think the joke was that every time somebody loses they blame it on a cold or a headache or something.>

Was it Tartakower, or Larsen?

Nov-08-09  zanshin: <Ulhumbrus> Thanks for the re-post, but I think it's moot now.

I also have to leave this game now. The position is drawish, but I have seen Magnus squeeze out wins from otherwise drawn positions. I'll check on the result later.

Nov-08-09  jeeky1996: yo guys i'm back....
Nov-08-09
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  lost in space: only 37 minutes remaining for Carlson. Either a draw or Aronian will win due to Carlson's Zeitnot later on.
Nov-08-09  mysql: carlson is still fighting here instead of going for the draw.
Nov-08-09
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  Sokrates: <kamalakanta:> That was Larsen. Who btw often used similar excuses for his defeats.
Nov-08-09  Ulhumbrus: One idea is 21...Nxc3 22 Kf2 Nxe2 23 Kxe2 and White's King is two moves ahead of Black's King in development
Nov-08-09  A Karpov Fan: < Eyal: <A Karpov Fan> Yes - and one has to feel for Svidler; playing two days in a row with Black first against Anand and then against Kramnik has to be considered a cruel and unusual punishment...>

-lol-

good point

Nov-08-09  Ulhumbrus: White's King is now two moves ahead of Black's King in development.
Nov-08-09  dakgootje: is the passed a-pawn really enough for the dropped bishop if 27. ...Rd2+ 28. Kf1 Rxb2 29. a6 ?!
Nov-08-09  dakgootje: wow, those last moves went fast; official draw now.
Nov-08-09
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  lost in space: Draw.
Nov-08-09
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  Sneaky: I found it:

<"I have never had the satisfaction of beating a completely healthy opponent" would probably have been a witticism of Tartakower, except that Amos Burn was able to say it already in the 19th century. You win a game, and afterwards the opponent says he was indisposed. Well, it's time for me to trotout my excuses.> -- Jonathan Berry

http://chess.bc.ca/Bulletins/bccfbu...

Nov-08-09  Ulhumbrus: It looks like a draw now.
Nov-08-09  PivotalAnorak: Let's go to Kramnik's game plz ??? :-)
Nov-08-09
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  chessgames.com: Stick around for a few minutes and we'll switch over to Kramnik-Svidler, already in progress.
Nov-08-09  Open Defence: < Sneaky: I found it:

<"I have never had the satisfaction of beating a completely healthy opponent" would probably have been a witticism of Tartakower, except that Amos Burn was able to say it already in the 19th century. You win a game, and afterwards the opponent says he was indisposed. Well, it's time for me to trotout my excuses.> -- Jonathan Berry

http://chess.bc.ca/Bulletins/bccfbu...
>

some opponents play stonger when they have a tummy upset :)

Nov-08-09
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  Eyal: At least they found a rather entertaining way to exchange everything off.
Nov-08-09  zarg: A cool drawing line by Carlsen, let's hope he get well after the rest day.
Nov-08-09  PivotalAnorak: Cool CG thx
Nov-08-09  birthtimes: This will be the last time Carlsen plays 9.Nd2 in this line. It seems that 9.O-O O-O 10.Ng5 Bb7 11.f4 reinforces central control for White, and also permits a kingside offensive, derived by its greater space advantage...
Nov-08-09  DCP23: <Eyal: <A Karpov Fan> Yes - and one has to feel for Svidler; playing two days in a row with Black first against Anand and then against Kramnik has to be considered a cruel and unusual punishment...>

So true, so true.

Nov-08-09
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  Eyal: From Zagrebelny's game summary on chesspro:

<In his debut at the knapsack Carlsen something completely empty, no fresh ideas. 9.Nd2 - not at all. From the second (by rating) person on the planet people are expected at all other revelations.> (http://www.google.com/translate?u=h...)

Nov-08-09
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  Eyal: From Dennis Monokroussos' commentary on the game:

<9.Nd2 This was new to me, and indeed, it has only been played once before [S Volkov vs E Romanov, 2008 ] in a position that has occurred at least 529 times! Despite the surprise, Aronian had no trouble and played very quickly through the whole game.

9...Bb7 10.Nce4N Be7 11.Nxf6+ Nxf6 12.0-0 0-0 13.Nb3 This is, no doubt, one of White's main ideas. He has stopped c5, both because the c-pawn would be attacked twice and only defended once, and because the b-pawn would hang as well. Yessirree, ...c5 has been stopped. It can't be played, no way, no how.

13...c5! Oh. If it's as easy as that, then 9.Nd2 won't be seen again at the big boy level.> (http://www.thechessmind.net/storage...)

Nov-09-09
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  Eyal: Carlsen on the game:

<People say top chess is becoming younger, but it doesn't show in the top10. We're only 3 players below 30 in this tournament. The Armenian Levon Aronian (27), may very well be my fiercest competitor when the "old" guard retires. We've had several tense encounters already and after he eliminated me from both the World Cup in 2004 (I was just 13) and the World Championship Candidate Matches in 2007, I've won quite a number of games to have a positive score in our classical encounters. Today I was not in much of a fighting mood and was quite happy to play a relatively short but somewhat complicated drawn game against him despite having the white pieces.> (http://www.arcticsec.no/index.php?b...)

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