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Nov-14-09
 | | Turnip: The position after 46. Re2 Rxe2 and 47. Kxe2 is a tablebase win. |
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Nov-14-09
 | | waustad: My S-B comment was in error. Ivanchuk would pick up .5 from a Carlsen win that I ignored. |
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Nov-14-09
 | | Gypsy: <karnak64: Since exhanges of pieces lead to a a likely draw, how does Carlsen make progress? > K-g4, f5-f4-f3, and see if he can crowd White king beyond acceptable levels. |
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Nov-14-09
 | | Willem Wallekers: Doesn't the page refresh? |
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Nov-14-09
 | | sofouuk: <Turnip> ok :-) and fruit would probably find it ... eventually ... |
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Nov-14-09
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <Rook77: Magnus is two pawns ahead... should be enough to win > The rook ending with f- and h-pawns is an important theoretical draw (often lost by the weaker side in practice, e.g., Onischuk vs S B Hansen, 2006 ). I read somewhere that reviewing this technically difficult endgame was part of Botvinnik’s standard match preparation. At any rate, if Carlsen keeps both the Rooks and the Bishops on, I assume he can win the ending (but I certainly don’t know). |
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Nov-14-09
 | | PinnedPiece: <zarg: tablebase win> At move 48.Be7 Leko begins the sequence you show. |
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| Nov-14-09 | | regtrademark: The online page is five moves ahead! |
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| Nov-14-09 | | regtrademark: http://tal.russiachess.org/online/i... |
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Nov-14-09
 | | zarg: 45. Ke2-f1 Kf7-g6 46. Re3-e2 Rc2-c8 47. Bb8-d6 Rc8-c6 48. Bd6-e7 Bf6xe7 49. Re2xe7 Rc6-c2 has been played,
click for larger viewand Carlsen has TB win in 32. |
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Nov-14-09
| | PinnedPiece: http://chessok.com/broadcast/?key=t... |
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Nov-14-09
 | | tpstar: Another famous RP/BP/R vs R ending where the superior side won = Kramnik vs Aronian, 2008 I think Black wants to maneuver the Bishop to g3 and control that diagonal, also White couldn't trade Bishops because that would connect the Pawns and Black would have a clear win. |
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Nov-14-09
| | zarg: No way Magnus mess this up. |
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Nov-14-09
| | PinnedPiece: <zarg: Carlsen has TB win in 32.> And about an hour more time on clock to figure it out with. |
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Nov-14-09
| | Peligroso Patzer: It is interesting that Carlsen found an opportunity to exvchange Bishops in a position where, theoretically, the weaker side cannot hold (per tablebases; I do not understand why, since the White King seems reasonably well-placed for defense.) |
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Nov-14-09
 | | kb2ct: <Peligroso Patzer:> <Rook77: Magnus is two pawns ahead... should be enough to win >
<The rook ending with f- and h-pawns is an important theoretical draw (often lost by the weaker side in practice, e.g., Onischuk vs S B Hansen, 2006 ). I read somewhere that reviewing this technically difficult endgame was part of Botvinnik’s standard match preparation.> The rook + f pawn and h pawn ending versus rook ending is well covered in John Nunn's new book "Understanding Chess Endgames" |
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Nov-14-09
| | Gypsy: <Another famous RP/BP/R vs R ending where the superior side won = Kramnik vs Aronian, 2008 > Keres used to win these semi-regularly. |
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Nov-14-09
 | | SCUBA diver: The clocks are frozen. |
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| Nov-14-09 | | eternaloptimist: <Peligroso Patzer: The rook ending with f- and h-pawns is an important theoretical draw (often lost by the weaker side in practice, e.g., Onischuk vs S B Hansen, 2006 ). I read somewhere that reviewing this technically difficult endgame was part of Botvinnik’s standard match preparation. At any rate, if Carlsen keeps both the Rooks and the Bishops on, I assume he can win the ending (but I certainly don’t know).> Thanks for that interesting comment, but this is still a win for Carlsen even though the  s are off the board. Leko's  's mobility is severely limited now, & Carlsen's  controls his 7th rank. Lights out for Leko here. |
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Nov-14-09
| | PinnedPiece: According to Chessok, the clocks show approx. 11:00 to 72:00 at move 53 ..? |
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Nov-14-09
| | PinnedPiece: After 53..Rd2
click for larger view |
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Nov-14-09
| | SCUBA diver: Chessgames: How about showing the Anand game. |
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Nov-14-09
 | | radu stancu: All games but this one are over. |
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Nov-14-09
| | Peligroso Patzer: Impressively, Carlsen's 53. ... Rd2 is the most accurate. Per tablebases, it wins in 28 moves. There were many other winning 53rd moves, but all required at least 29 moves. |
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Nov-14-09
| | Gypsy: <SCUBA diver: Chessgames: How about showing the Anand game.> Anand lost.
(Prety decisively, too.) |
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