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|Nov-19-09|| ||KamikazeAttack: <"Narrowing the margin"??? What are you talking about? Carlsen has been better for a year or two already. He has the highest rating in the world and is coming off of two dominant tournament wins. Anand's time has come and gone, just as Kasparov predicted when he retired. The championship that is about to be played is a joke.>|
What a joke of a post.
|Nov-19-09|| ||drnooo: Odd, how some run to get ahead of the mob for the parade. Carlsen is likely still not better than Anand in classical: look at their last few games. He may not even be better in a biitz match, though probably so. And here I am defending Anand whom I always felt may even be inferior in classical to Krammnik, despite their most recent matches. Krammnik right now may be on a helathy return to being the best, period. Ask Kasparov whom he considers the toughest to beat. Or it may be still Anand beating Krammnik. For me, Carlsen, despite his rating, still has not proved he can really put a dent in Krammnik. Till he does, all this talk about who is best still could be anybody: Krammnik, Anand, or Carlsen. Topolov, I feel, will lose to Anand, by how big or small a margin is tough to say. Or he could beat Anand. But I definitely do feel he would have a rougher time against Krammnik. Vlad is just too solid. Look at his record against anyone BUT anand.|
|Nov-19-09|| ||notyetagm: <KamikazeAttack: <"Narrowing the margin"??? What are you talking about? Carlsen has been better for a year or two already. He has the highest rating in the world and is coming off of two dominant tournament wins. Anand's time has come and gone, just as Kasparov predicted when he retired. The championship that is about to be played is a joke.>|
What a joke of a post.>
Wow, I am agreeing with KA.
Anand is *not* dead yet and will be a *formidable* opponent when he finally plays Carlsen in a WC match.
Carlsen would be the favorite but Anand would not be a pushover.
|Nov-19-09|| ||sheaf: < Krammnik right now may be on a helathy return to being the best, period> and he was unhealthy during bonn..<Ask Kasparov whom he considers the toughest to beat.> u know, sometimes at least try to sound intelligent..who knows u might succeed..All this bullcrap has been gone over and over again here...Kramnik couldn't beat shirov in 90s <assuming kramnik's sickness has got nothing to do with shirov's perceived *ugly* face> but kasparov could easily beat shirov..while kasparov had problems with kramnik.. also, there is absolutely no evidence in the world that suggests kramnik was sick during Bonn match..Kramnik himself refuted it....|
Secondly, the assumption that your *favourite* player is *NOT sick* if and only if he wins sounds like utter garbage...as if he is playing with himself and the opponent doesn't count at all..A bunch of idiots argue that kasparov was not playing to his peak strength since he lost kramnik...as if it is all about one player..
Then there are retards who claim that Nigel short won over Karpov because he was past his prime..when his career best result was linares 94 and amber 95 rapid..scoring 11/13 and 10/11 respectively against the toughest opponents... and himself rates that year as one of his best years...
|Nov-19-09|| ||ajk68: <"For me, Carlsen, despite his rating, still has not proved he can really put a dent in Krammnik.">|
They are pretty much equal in classical time control. They have exchanged victories with some draws. It would be hard to claim one has proven a superiority.
|Nov-19-09|| ||notyetagm: Game Collection: PINS! PINS! PINS! PINS! PINS! PINS! PINS! PINS!|
Game Collection: Remove the guard: take pawn chain base
|Nov-19-09|| ||notyetagm: 32 ... g4-g3!! is a *great* shot to find in a blitz game.|
|Nov-19-09|| ||notyetagm: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...
Anand,V (2788) - Carlsen,M (2801) [D31]
World Blitz Moscow RUS (38), 18.11.2009
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Be7 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Bf4 Nf6 6.e3 Bf5 7.h3 c6 8.Nf3 Nbd7 9.g4 Be4 10.Bg2 0-0 11.0-0 Re8 12.Nxe4 Nxe4 13.Nd2 Nxd2 14.Qxd2 Nf8 15.b4 Ng6 16.Bg3 Bd6 17.Bxd6 Qxd6 18.Rab1 a6 19.a4 Nh4 20.b5 axb5 21.axb5 Qg6 22.bxc6 bxc6 23.Rfc1 h5 24.Qc2 Qg5 25.Qxc6 Nxg2 26.Kxg2 hxg4 27.h4 Qf5 28.Qd6 Qf3+ 29.Kg1 Ra2 30.Rf1
30...Rxe3! <---- LATERAL PIN!!!
31.Qd8+ Kh7 32.Qg5 g3 33.Qxe3 gxf2+ 34.Qxf2 Rxf2 35.Rxf2 Qg4+ 36.Rg2 Qxd4+ 37.Kh1 Qe4 38.Rf1 f5 39.Kg1 d4 40.Rgf2 d3 41.h5 Qg4+ 42.Rg2 Qd4+ 43.Kh1 d2 44.Rgg1 f4 45.Kg2 Qe3 46.Rh1 Qg3#
This is known as an "Epaulette mate". It is most painful. 0-1.
|Nov-19-09|| ||shintaro go: Despite his rise to 2800, Kramnik and Anand would still be tough for Carlsen to beat in a match.|
|Nov-19-09|| ||notyetagm: 23 ... h7-h5 <pin: g2>
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30 ... ♖e8xe3! <lateral pin: g2>
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32 ... g4-g3!! 33 ♕g5x♖e3 g3xf2+ <remove guard: e3>
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|Nov-19-09|| ||notyetagm: Great game by Carlsen.|
|Nov-19-09|| ||notyetagm: http://www.thechessmind.net/storage...|
<28...Qf3+? Winning, but there was better. <<<[28...Rxe3! 29.Rb8+ Losing, but there's nothing better.>>> 29...Kh7! White can pick his favorite rook to capture, but it doesn't matter - he's dead either way. 30.Rxa8 (30.fxe3 Ra2+ 31.Kg1 Qf2+ 32.Kh1 Qg2# ) 30...Qe4+ 31.Kg1 Rh3 32.Qh2 Forced to stop mate, and the worst part is that it costs White a full queen. 32...Rxh2 33.Kxh2 Qf4+ 34.Kg2 Qxc1 ]
So it looks like Anand and Carlsen both missed the winning shot 28 ... ♖e8xe3!.
|Nov-20-09|| ||cionics: Carlsen is a machine!|
|Nov-20-09|| ||aazqua: Sad to see you Anand lovers keep your bear hug on him all the way to the grave. He's a top flight player who is on the way down. He will never rise again. I've been saying for two years that Carlsen will become the dominant player of his era and that has just begun. For you sorry warts that insist on clinging to the past, Anand is 40 years old. How many top players got better into their 40's? None. Karpov in his prime was a stronger player then Anand and in ten years Anand will be comparable to Karpov now, only at 9 years younger. Anand had better cling to that title as long as he can because once someone gives Carlsen a shot at it it will be gone forever. Kramnik and Topalov are 34. They are both desperately (and Topo has always been desperate) trying to reach the top before the inevitable reign of Carlsen.|
Anyone who thinks any of those fading ancients would be a favorite over Carlsen head to head is completely daft. He is alone and there isn't a challenger in site for ten years.
|Nov-20-09|| ||pawn to QB4: I expect that Carlsen, Kramnik and Topalov have a lot more respect for Anand than you do. Like you, I would predict Carlsen to become the dominant player of his era, but that's been an easy prediction for some years now. I also expect Anand and the other "fading ancients" to take a lot of dethroning, and that will be a lot more fun to watch, and better for the game, than a coronation march. As a final thought, should I outlive him I expect to keep my bear hug on Anand beyond the mere grave, as we chess players do with the great masters. That's why the great tournament recently won by a fading ancient was named for a player who remains in the hearts of all true lovers of the game.|
|Nov-21-09|| ||notyetagm: <pawn to QB4: I expect that Carlsen, Kramnik and Topalov have a lot more respect for Anand than you do.>|
Yes, very disrespectful talk about an all-time great player.
<Like you, I would predict Carlsen to become the dominant player of his era, but that's been an easy prediction for some years now.>
People still assuming no more prodigies will arise to challenge Carlsen in the future. Hell, Aronian will not be a pushover either.
|Nov-22-09|| ||aazqua: Disrespectful in what sense?
"He's a top flight player who is on the way down".
That's indisputable. After Anand loses the title he will never regain it.
Anyone care to bet that he would regain it? Of course not.
In 10 years he will be in the same place Karpov is now - if he's even playing high level chess at all. Anand was never an all time great player. He's not even top ten. He's just a guy hanging around the edges of greatness.
Finally, there's no one on the horizon that could challenge Carlsen. At the earliest there may be an 8-10 year old who in ten years does what Carlsen is doing now.
|Nov-22-09|| ||tamar: I concur with the sentiments eloquently written by <pawn to QB4>. |
<That's why the great tournament recently won by a fading ancient was named for a player who remains in the hearts of all true lovers of the game.>
Capablanca challenged a 'fading ancient' Lasker and had that match taken place in 1914 instead of 1921, when Lasker was 45, we would have had the best world championship match ever.
When it fell through, Capa said,
<I hope the match will come, the sooner the better, as I don't want to play an old man, but a master in the plenitude of his power.>
Judging by Carlsen's comments, he wants the same challenge.
|Jan-30-10|| ||aazqua: Anyone see how Anand was doing in Corus? Oh that's right, he's getting beat by Carlsen. Again. Wonder how long it will be before they let him play for the title. What's Carlsen's plus minus against Anand over the past couple years?|
|Jan-30-10|| ||VaselineTopLove: <Anyone see how Anand was doing in Corus? Oh that's right, he's getting beat by Carlsen. Again. Wonder how long it will be before they let him play for the title. What's Carlsen's plus minus against Anand over the past couple years?>|
This game is not from Corus. And Carlsen didn't beat him in Corus 2010. Actually the only classical game that Carlsen has beaten Anand in is from Linares 2009 I believe. Until then, Anand had a staggering plus score against Carlsen.
If Carlsen is to play for the title, then he will. No one is going to take it away from him.
I don't see your point of referencing this game.
|Feb-07-11|| ||notyetagm: Game Collection: SHTI: SOMETHING HAS TO INTERPOSE|
Anand vs Carlsen, 2009 30 ... Re8xe3! White f2-pawn must interpose g2-mating square
|Mar-06-11|| ||notyetagm: Game Collection: DOUBLING WITH TEMPO (ON FILE, RANK, DIAGONAL)|
Anand vs Carlsen, 2009 28/29 - Re8xe3! leads to doubling on 7th with Ra8-a2+, -Qf5-f2+
|Jul-09-12|| ||The Last Straw: I just think the end of this game is so sudden!|
|Jan-31-13|| ||TangoJoseph: 2013 WILL BE THE SHOWDOWN FOR ANAND vs. CARLSON :) I expect a great match from both sides|
|Feb-01-13|| ||solskytz: Not sudden at all...
Carlsen was looking forward throughout the game to exploit the white Kingside which was weakened by the advances h2-h3 and g2-g4, as Anand was busy frantically exchanging pieces, in hopes of a draw.
Carlsen later concentrated his forces at the K-side, after taking measures to fortify the Q-side against white's play (pawns on a6 and c6), and later agreeing to sacrifice one pawn (c6) but not another (the central pawn on d5, the capture of which would have also spelled a renewed connection between the two wings, in white's favor) by a timely exchange on g2.
After that, came some brilliant moves by the Q and Rs, to force further weakening and concessions on the K-side, eventually forcing white to enter a hopeless ending, where the two rooks are to be dominated by the Q and advancing pawns.
In this ending, it has been black's object to advance pawns to d2 and f2, through checks and threats, thereafter planting the Q on e1, where nothing could stop the creation of a second Q on d1.
White, being helpless against this final plan, just stumbled into a mate - but the game was a strategic and tactical masterpiece by the young Norweigian player. A rout!
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