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Vassily Ivanchuk vs Wesley So
World Cup (2009)  ·  French Defense: Winawer. Delayed Exchange Variation (C01)  ·  0-1
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Nov-26-09  Assa S. Sin: Enough of your cheap excuses. You have nothing more to give i.e. your games against Anish Giri resulted to draw both in black and white. Retire now and go fishing.

The kid So didn't play bad at all. He thinks that playing 2nd best move was enough to defeat you. Don't be sadden by the fact that you lose to a 16 yr old boy prodigy. Relax...

Nov-27-09
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  Ulhumbrus: <After 20.Qxg6? Qh4 (the only move, but good enough) White is much worse - Black repulses the attack with ...Qh6 (or 21.fxg5 Nd7 - aiming for e5 - 22.Qe6 Rae8!) and White remains down in material and without the resource of the perpetual check that he had in the game.> If Black has to play ..Qh4 to defend against Qxg6, this suggests that Qxg6 is a potential threat and the move 20 Rf1 whereupon 20...Qd4 or 20...Qd2 invites 21 Qxg6
Nov-27-09
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  Eyal: Well, naturally in case of 20.Rf1 Black would play 20...Qh4 for this reason; that's a line that should lead (as in the game) to a draw by repetition with accurate play. <zanshin> already gave it in one of the first posts on this page.
Nov-29-09
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  Ulhumbrus: < Well, naturally in case of 20.Rf1 Black would play 20...Qh4 for this reason; that's a line that should lead (as in the game) to a draw by repetition with accurate play. <zanshin> already gave it in one of the first posts on this page.> On 20 Rf1 Qh4 21 Rf3 threatens Rh3. Then on 21...g4 22 Rg3 threatens Rxg4.
Nov-29-09
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  Eyal: <On 20 Rf1 Qh4 21 Rf3 threatens Rh3. Then on 21...g4 22 Rg3 threatens Rxg4.>

21.Rf3? loses to 21...Na6! 22.Rh3 Rae8! or 22.Bxg6 g4 23.Rg3 (23.Rf1 Rf6 24.Qe7 g3 25.h3 Rxf4) 23...Rxf4. g3, the best move for White immediately following 20.Rf1 (as noted in <zanshin>'s post) is also bad now after 22...Qh5, attacking the white rook with Rae8 to follow.

Nov-29-09
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  Ulhumbrus: <21.Rf3? loses to 21...Na6! 22.Rh3 Rae8! or 22.Bxg6 g4 23.Rg3 (23.Rf1 Rf6 24.Qe7 g3 25.h3 Rxf4) 23...Rxf4. g3, the best move for White immediately following 20.Rf1 (as noted in <zanshin>'s post) is also bad now after 22...Qh5, attacking the white rook with Rae8 to follow.> 21 Rf3 Na6 22 Kg1 Rae8 23 Qxg6
Nov-29-09
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  Eyal: <21 Rf3 Na6 22 Kg1 Rae8 23 Qxg6> 23...Re1+ followed by Rxf4 (whether White defends on f1 with the bishop or the rook); White has no threats whatsoever.
Nov-29-09
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  Ulhumbrus: <21 Rf3 Na6 22 Kg1 Rae8 23 Qxg6> 23...Re1+ followed by Rxf4 (whether White defends on f1 with the bishop or the rook); White has no threats whatsoever.> 23...Re1 24 Bf1 Rxf4 25 g3 forks the Black Q and R. On 25...Qg4 26 Rxf4 the g5 pawn is pinned.
Nov-29-09
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  Eyal: <23...Re1 24 Bf1 Rxf4 25 g3 forks the Black Q and R.> There are several ways for Black to win here, but 25...Qh3 is probably the best.
Dec-01-09  CodenameAdidas: Manny Wesley the dstroyer,
Dec-02-09
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  beenthere240: There seems to be a problem with the official pairings. I don't see General Tso in the semifinals.
Dec-07-09  licuan: hey, the kid deserves his win against IVANCHUK. Chuky surely overdid his chances to win a drawish game. WESLEY SO was in a different position against MALAKHOV . . . . he took CHUKY's chair.
Apr-11-10  The Rocket: "Isnt the exchange french a dead draw?

Nope.

Aug-27-10  FISCHERboy: Can't believe the great Ivanchuk blew the chance to draw.
Feb-05-11  polarmis: Ivanchuk gave a fascinating explanation for this game: http://www.chessintranslation.com/2...

<In the last qualifying cycle for the World Championship you played in the 2009 World Cup in Khanty-Mansiysk and lost in the last-32 to the young and not-so-well-known Philippine player Wesley So. Was that also the result of emotional pressure?

Well, I was already really tired there. Before that I’d played in the Tal Memorial in Moscow and also in the blitz, so you could say I wasn’t as fresh as I could be. I really did feel under emotional pressure. But specifically during that match with So there were some non-chess goings on. As far as I recall, after 12-13 moves in the first game I liked the position and thought I had a certain advantage – but at that moment I suddenly became unwell. I had heartburn and went to the medical point, asking them to give me some sort of activated carbon to bring me back to my senses. It took about 15 minutes, and I returned and went for play where I wasn’t taking any risks – I had a draw and, it seems, there should also have been a win. But my opponent made some only moves to hold on, and found moves that you wouldn’t expect to be there, but they were.

I then had a choice – to go for a draw or to play more sharply. And I decided to take a risk, which I’d say was actually justified from a chess point of view, because objectively my chances of winning were in no way worse than my opponent’s. But I was already quite significantly behind on time at that point and, perhaps, given that the match consisted of only two games, I should have had the common sense to take a draw – especially with the less than ideal way I was feeling that day. I probably paid too little attention to my condition.>

Feb-25-11
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  wordfunph: Chucky quoted after losing to 16-year-old GM Wesley So..

"To my mind, I should leave the professional chess now. I start a new life with new goals. Chess? I will become just a chess fan now. I will follow chess; will follow the games of my ex-colleagues."

Apr-30-11  Boratco: <I probably paid too little attention to my condition.>

Probably paid too little attention to GM Wesley So. :D

Apr-30-11  zoren: Wesley really did deserve the win, even if he was completely outplayed in the opening phase only until Ivanchuk's ego allowed for him to press in an objectively drawn game. Such is chess!
Oct-19-11  PierreMontz: Excuses, excuses, excuses! The blunder was that he miscalculated that his bishop was going to be trapped after 16...f6 with Black's queen on f7. He invited the knight fork that's why he sacrificed the pawn on d4 by 13. Na4? not thinking that after the exchange his bishop will be trapped. So White exchanged his rook and a bishop against Black's knight and a bishop which was a clear blunder.
Oct-19-11  PierreMontz: Mabuhay kabayan!!! Tayong mga Pinoy ay hindi nila matatalo sa talino, naku malalim na to.
Jun-02-12  JEDD: ivanchuk is old. gm wesley so the young prodigy, deserve the win. humble in victory. hope we can see wesley beating anand.
Jun-07-12
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  whiteshark: < Quote of the Day

< To my mind, I should leave the professional chess now. I start a new life with new goals. Chess? I will become just a chess fan now. I will follow chess; will follow the games of my ex-colleagues. >>

-- Ivanchuk

The good news is that he changed his mind in the meantime.

Jun-07-12
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  lost in space: Halleluja :-)
Jun-21-12  MORPHYEUS: I'm nominating this game for Wesley's Best Games of 2005-2011.
Aug-10-12
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  Marmot PFL: Never seen a game where black didn't move the QN until move 30, at least not a game that black won.
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