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Luke McShane vs Nigel Short
London Chess Classic (2009), London ENG, rd 1, Dec-08
Scotch Game: Classical. Intermezzo Variation (C45)  ·  1-0


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  xenophon: <ajile> where's your recent post re white losing it due to his trapped knight gone?
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  Landman: It wasn't short and it wasn't Short.
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  Once: I really like Be7. It not only safeguards the queening square, it also keeps an eye on black's pawn and knight. Clever stuff at the end of a long long match.
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  beenthere240: That's what I said 1000 moves ago. But it's not that hard a mate for a GM.
Dec-08-09  Marmot PFL: Black really should pack it in
Dec-08-09  ajile: Bxc5...
Dec-08-09  karnak64: I guess we're about to see how on top of his N+B v. lone K technique Mr. McShane is -- unless Nigel throws in the towel --
Dec-08-09  karnak64: Towel thrown.
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  Once: Whew! What a marathon! Well played, Luke. You have done well, my son. Truly your skills are complete. Obiwan has taught you well.
Premium Chessgames Member Thanks everybody for watching this epic struggle. The games continue tomorrow morning at 9am Eastern, when we cover our feature game Carlsen-McShane. Hope to see you then!
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  beenthere240: I think this game would be great for the "Guess the Move" feature. ;-)
Dec-08-09  zanshin: I see Luke finally won .. whew! What a game .. worth 1.5 points if you ask me.
Dec-08-09  Caissanist: I watched this game on another server (buho21) and that one showed Short playing it out to move 163, finally resigning with a bare king against queen, bishop, and knight.
Dec-08-09  PinnedPiece: Yes, this game had 163 moves.
Dec-08-09  Phoenix: Oh the pain....
Dec-08-09  Jim Bartle: Should be fresh for his game with Carlsen.
Dec-08-09  Kasputin: <Should be fresh for his game with Carlsen> I know you are joking, but this is an interesting question. Playing 160+ moves only to draw or lose can't be much fun, but still this is not like a weekend Swiss where you might have a few minutes in-between rounds. Maybe a long game and a win really gives a player a boost. And he will certainly need it considering who he is playing against tomorrow.
Dec-08-09  Jim Bartle: One thing we can probably be sure of: winning in 160 moves leaves you better prepared for the next day than losing in 160 moves.
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  HeMateMe: <Luke McShane>'s a great name for an actor, maybe for someone who plays tough guys, you know, a cowboy gunslinger, or mob dude.

Maybe Luke can be a tuff guy on the chessboard?

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  keypusher: <zanshin: I see Luke finally won .. whew! What a game .. worth 1.5 points if you ask me.>

He gets three.

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  HeMateMe: A familiar theme, huh? The player with pawns on the same color as his Bishop runs out of moves. 146. K-d5 is the decisive breakthrough.

Does anyone know (fritz, ribbie) if the draw can be held, despite Short being down a pawn?

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  Eyal: I wonder which game was a worse torture for Short: this one or Short vs Salov, 1990.
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  YouRang: <162...Nh6+> : at least Nigel still has a sense of humor. :-D
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  al wazir: This game is a fine demonstration of why watching chess games while they're being played is not an efficient use of time.

129. Ka4 would have shortened it by 30 moves or so, but there were probably lots of other ways white could have improved.

Dec-08-09  Marmot PFL: <Kasputin> Even if he loses he is ahead of where he would be with 2 draws, because of the scoring (wins = 3, draws = 1, losses = 0).
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