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Nigel Short vs Magnus Carlsen
London Chess Classic (2009)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Dragon Variation. Yugoslav Attack Modern Line (B76)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Dec-15-09
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  AgentRgent: <uscfratingmybyear: "If he takes the c pawn it's mate in 2. over and out." The black king had e8 after the check on g7.> The Queen mates on a8 not checks on g7.
Dec-15-09  NakoSonorense: <then mates?> The Black King can move to h6 and escapes the threat.
Dec-15-09
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  extremepleasure2: and Short lost on time.
Dec-15-09
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  Domdaniel: With time almost gone, the forcing Qe8+ line seems inevitable.
Dec-15-09
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  Kasputin: I wish my chess clock worked like these ones - I get to less then a minute and it lasts about 3
Dec-15-09
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  Once: I have a slight domestic problem. I am supposed to collect the Mem from the train station in 25 minutes. She is going to be so annoyed if I'm not there....
Dec-15-09  weisyschwarz: <Once> you will be there.
Dec-15-09  DEEPERGRAY: <Kasputin>. When your a Super GM even your clock is that good!
Dec-15-09
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  beenthere240: white can win yet another black pawn and finish the game at least ahead in material.
Dec-15-09
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  swordfish: Exciting game. Now that the smoke has cleared and the players have reached the time control, it looks like a draw.
Dec-15-09
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  Domdaniel: Now they get increments: no need to go so close to the wire again. If it's drawn, Short's play deserves great praise. It does anyway: he's proving, as he said before, that he's not riffraff.
Dec-15-09  eternaloptimist: <Once: I have a slight domestic problem. I am supposed to collect the Mem from the train station in 25 minutes. She is going to be so annoyed if I'm not there....> go ahead & leave to pick her up. this will be a draw i assure u.
Dec-15-09
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  kb2ct:

Material is equal. Speed is equal. Dead draw. A perp speeds things up.

:0)

Dec-15-09  carmen: 54 ...Qxf6 looks winning to me. Why did not Carlsen take that pawn?
Dec-15-09
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  HeMateMe: You wonder if Short can block the checks with his queen, exchange a pair of queened pawns, and end up with the last queen on the board?
Dec-15-09
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  Eyal: <54 ...Qxf6 looks winning to me. Why did not Carlsen take that pawn?>

After 55.c5 the c-pawn gives White strong counterplay, that may be enough for a draw; perhaps Carlsen mistakenly thought that he can stop that advance with the queen on h5.

Dec-15-09
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  samsonagonistes: Are they both playing on each thinking that they can't lose? They can shake hands. Did Nige see that 48.c4 was going to be his saving move?
Dec-15-09  Deevke: This is drawn... Maybe Carlsen missed the win by not taking the f6-pawn. Second time he missed the win is this tournament.
Dec-15-09  scrambler: White could try 61.c7 and after 61...Qc2+ He as 62.Ka3 another check and white win the a-pawn he'll also threaten qf8 check and then queen.
Dec-15-09
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  HeMateMe: Does anyone have an eval from fritz or rybka? gonna be very drawish, no way for either king to avoid the checks.
Dec-15-09
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  kb2ct:

<carmen: 54 ...Qxf6 looks winning to me. Why did not Carlsen take that pawn?>

It was not winning. Just a little different.

:0)

Dec-15-09
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  Domdaniel: If 61.c7 Qb3+ 62.Qxb3+ axb3+ 63.Kxb3 h2 64.c8Q h1Q, it looks drawn.
Dec-15-09
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  dotsamoht: Go Nigel! Win this thing!
Dec-15-09  scrambler: These guys are playing this one out.
Dec-15-09
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  Once: Hmmm... the clock is ticking .... have I got time to watch a couple more moves and still make it to the train station? Will there be a perp or can nige win it?

Qh8+ K-g something, Qg8+ then queen the pawn...

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