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|Mar-05-11|| ||Phony Benoni: White has a strong attacking position, espcially those bishops pointed at the kingside--and J.E. Littlewood was a tactical genius. Black has two extra pawns, seemingly has things buttoned up, and the f4 attacks two crucial pieces.|
The eye is drawn to the a1-h8 diagonal, especially if White can get in Rg7+. So 44.Qxe7+, hoping to draw the knight away from g6? No, 44...Qxe7 is fine for Black, since 45.Bxf5 goes nowhere.
So let's reverse the moves: 44.Bxf5 Qxf5 45.Qxe7+ Nxe7 46.Rg7+ Kh8. Now White can win the queen back, but she's protected and Black winds up a piece ahead.
Can White take the knight first? No, Black's king goes to g8 and escapes the windmill.
So the rook can do no more than discover check along the g-file, Black not having any useful interpositions. Looks like a draw.
The big question of the day will be if Black dares to try to win by not playing 44...Qxf5. My instincts say no, but we'll see what the aces come up with.
|Mar-05-11|| ||SufferingBruin: I loved 44.Bxf5 but couldn't find the win so I gave up.
But I got the right move. So, full credit for me. :)|
|Mar-05-11|| ||dzechiel: White to move (44?). Black is up two pawns. "Very Difficult."|
After looking this over for a while, I really want to investigate...
I was gonna say 44 Rxg6, but I can see that's no good. In the process of disproving that move, I think I see the actual continuation:
On the queen, so it's forcing in that respect. But even more important, we want to decoy the black queen away from protecting the rook.
44...Qxf5 45 Qxe7+ Nxe7
Other moves for black lead to a quick checkmate.
46 Rg7+ Kh8
So, is white playing for a win or a draw here? I think a draw (after all, he started two pawns down).
Note that both knights are on dark squares and have no ability to block the white bishop. And interposition by the black queen is needless suicide.
47...Kh7 48 Rg7+
I think this ended in a draw here.
Time to check.
Heh. I even got move 47 correct, when the rook could have gone to any of six squares.
|Mar-05-11|| ||al wazir: I got the first three moves right but was planning on 47. Rf7+, winning the . OTB, however, I think I would have seen that black then retakes the and winds up a piece to the good, and so I would have opted for the draw. I'll give myself 5 points out of 6.|
|Mar-05-11|| ||rilkefan: I can't make 44.Rxg6 and 45.Bxf5 work, so I'm going to try 44.Bxf5 Qxf5 45.Qxe7+ Nxe7 46.Rg7+ and - oh, the e7 N holds f5 - uhh, settle for a draw I hope.|
|Mar-05-11|| ||stacase: After a very long drought I got this one move for move. White is down two pawns, and probably ought to be looking for a draw. Black's Knight has the Bishop & Rook forked so 44 Bxf5 is the first order of business. After that it fell apart, the Rook and Bishop work an "Old Mill" and force the draw.|
|Mar-05-11|| ||scormus: B is nominally ahead in material and despite the strong WBs, the position looks reasonably secure. Difficult? Very! I'll stick my neck out and say its W to play and draw. |
44. Bxf5 Qxf5. I think thats effectively forced eg. 44... Qe3 45 Qxe3 Rxe3 46 Bd2 Re4 47 Bb1. However, after ... Qxf5 B is threatening something nasty on h3 so W needs a really cool move.
45. Qxe7+ Nxe7. Clearly forced
46. Rxg7+ Kh8
In my ideal world the WR would attack an unprotected BQ with dis+ and get a won ending, but the Ne7 defends her and 47 Rxe7+ would allow the BK to escape.
So move the WR back on the g-file repeat +s on h7 and h8.
Now check and see what I missed
|Mar-05-11|| ||scormus: Hey, makes up for yesterday!|
|Mar-05-11|| ||Jimfromprovidence: I like the fact that even if black refuses to play 44...Qxf5 and tries the only other good move for the queen, 44...Qf7, white can still force a draw with 45 Qd6!.|
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Now, it's black who's in trouble and who has to play 45...Qxf5 to salvage a draw.
A good side puzzle is to see why 45...Nxg2 is no good in this position.
|Mar-05-11|| ||tacticalmonster: 1) White is down two pawns
2) Black has the unstoppable threat of winning the exchange. If 44 Rd2 or 44 Rg3, Black has 44...Nxd3 45 Rxd3 Qe2+ winning the rook
3) Both kings are exposed but Black has more defensive pieces around his king while White has more offensive pieces ( two bishops and well placed queen) aiming at his opponent's king
Candidate: 44 Bxf5
a) 44...Qxf5 45 Qxe7+ Nxe7 46 Rg7+ Kh8 47 Rg4+ Kh7 48 Rg7+ - White bails out with a pepetual check
b) 44...Qf7 45 Qd6! (threatening 46 Qxf4 or Rxg6!) Qxf5 tranposed to a)
c) 44...Qe3 45 Bd4 Qe1 46 Qc8! Re8 47 Qc7+ Re7 (or 47...Kg8 48 Bxg6) 48 Qxf4
|Mar-05-11|| ||cyclon: Hats off to Mr. J. Littlewood if I'm not mistaken (well I can)! 44.Bxf5 Qxf5 45.Qxe7+ Nxe7 46. Rg7+ Kh8 47.Rf7+ curtains may slowly fall - using another expression; cufflinks.|
|Mar-05-11|| ||newzild: It took me a full five minutes to get this, because when I initially assessed the characteristics of the position I identified two important points:|
1) The black pieces are defending each other, but one or two may be overloaded;
2) There could be a mate on h8 if White succeeds in pinning or deflecting the Ng6 while getting his queen to d4.
It was this second point that took up so much of my time.
Unlike <Dzechiel>, I didn't go so far as to predict the rook's discovered check square.
|Mar-05-11|| ||cyclon: I was wrong! F5 is protected by the -Ne7.|
|Mar-05-11|| ||Eduardo Leon: White looks royally fu...dged. However, there is a last chance, which fortunately for me, suggests itself, and, thus, requires almost no work to find:|
To a beginner, this looks like an oversight. The e7 rook is protected by the queen and the g6 knight. The queen might be displaced, but the knight remains there.
<44...xf5 45.xe7+ xe7>
"Ha-ha. Exactly what I said. So, now, what?"
So this is a perpetual. Black has nothing less than a queen and two knights, but neither knight can get in the way of the bishop.
|Mar-05-11|| ||riverunner: I found that sequence but it didn't seem profitable. And I was right. Whatever the solution was, that ain't it.|
|Mar-05-11|| ||morfishine: White draws with the windmill: 44.Bxf5 Qxf5 45.Qxe7+ Nxe7 46.Rg7+ Kh8 47.Rg1+|
As <jimfromprovidence> pointed out 44...Qf7 doesn't help due to 45.Qd6 and if here 45...Nxg2 then 46.Bxg6+ Qxg6 47.Qxe7+ Kg8 48.Qd8+ Kf7 49.Qxd5+ and white picks up the knight:
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I have to admit, it feels good to finally get a Friday or Saturday puzzle correct.
|Mar-05-11|| ||knight knight: Saturday, white to play, two pawns down.
Haven't much time today. I see a drawing line 44. Bxf5 Qxf5 45. Qxe7+ Nxe7 46. Rg7+ Kh8 47. Rg5+ etc. Unfortunately white can't capture the black queen because it is protected by the e7 knight.
If black refuses the bishop with, say, 44...Qf7, then 45. Bxg6+ Nxg6 46. Qd6 maybe, then 46...Ra7 perhaps, well, white's doing better than the initial position that's for sure.
Time to check...
|Mar-05-11|| ||goodevans: Got this in no time at all. Quicker than Wednesday's even. A little boost to the morale after failing miserably yesterday!|
|Mar-05-11|| ||JuliusDS: I saw this line but rejected it after not finding any win. I didn't occur to me to look for a draw.|
|Mar-05-11|| ||morfishine: <JuliusDS>...<...It didn't occur to me to look for a draw>...I've done that on more than one occasion|
|Mar-05-11|| ||David2009: J Littlewood vs A Perkins, 1975 White 44?|
White is two pawns down with R and B forked by a N, so has no sensible alternative
to forcing a draw by repettion/ perpetual check: 44 Bxf5 Qxf5 (or Qe2?? Bxg6+ etc)
45 Qxe7+ Nxe7 46 Rg7+ Kh8 47 Rg2+ Kh7 48 Rg7+ =. Black is temporarily too weak on the Black squares to cover the discovered check and win on material.
Time to check:
Yes. Odd week - 1 0 1 0 0 1 so far with Sunday to come, 10/21 on <Al-Wazir> scale.
|Mar-05-11|| ||sevenseaman: As it transpired, for me the main issue became a win or a draw. I had expected a win but was wary of a draw.|
Two lines with the idea of pulling Black Q away from the R.
1. 44. Rxg6 Nxg6; did not go anywhere as Black can recapture with this other N and continue to keep his Q in touch with his R. A wasted sac, so abandoned.
2. 44. Bxf5 Qxf5 (promising) 45. Qxe7+ Nxe7 46. Rg7+ Kh8 (wow pay dirt! Discovered check available. Wait, if I go for the jugular the Q, my R perishes, my picture becomes bleak)
It is clear now I get nothing more than a draw. That is cold.
Good puzzle, better than yesterday but why, draws have become flavor of the month er.. the week?
|Mar-05-11|| ||timothee3331: That looks more like a tuesday or am I getting really really good ?!|
|Mar-05-11|| ||morfishine: <sevenseaman> Good going! I left you a message on yesterdays puzzle: G Grigore vs Holzke, 1993|
|Mar-05-11|| ||iking: i have seen the combination in less than 1 minute, maybe because the mottif is recurring?|
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