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Dec-24-09
 | | Nezhmetdinov: Black is in difficulties; neverthless! The score may be wrong? |
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Dec-24-09
 | | parmetd: cellphone ring? |
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| Dec-24-09 | | bauernfresser: We need a notation for cellphone ring. |
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Dec-24-09
 | | Hesam7: After 23. c3 Black is in deep trouble, White's knights dominate the entire board:
click for larger viewWhite is threatening Nxe6 followed by Ng6+ so Black should defend e6: 23. ... Rfe8?? loses to 24. Nf7+; 23. ... Bxe5 24. Rxe5 is hardly any help since now Black has to defend both e6 and g5; 23. ... Rae8 24. axb5 axb5 (24. ... cxb5? 25. Rxa6) 25. Ra7 Re7 26. Rxe7 Qxe7 27. Ned7 and the e6-pawn falls shortly; finally 23. ... Ng7 is met by 24. Ned7 after the exchange on f6 White nets the g5-pawn: 24. ... Rf7 25. Nxf6 Rxf6 26. Qxg5. If anyone thinks Black's position is defensible please suggest a move for him. |
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Dec-24-09
| | Hesam7: It seems that 13. ... f6, weakening e6, was a major mistake:
click for larger viewBlack should have castled instead. |
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Dec-24-09
 | | Peligroso Patzer: Excellent comments, <Hesam7>. 20. ... Nxe5 (weakening the c5-square) may have been Black's final blunder, after which his fate was sealed. With 20. ... g4, there might still have been a possibility to defend. |
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| Dec-25-09 | | kurtrichards: <23. c3 1-0> Black's time expired, I guess. |
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Dec-25-09
| | Hesam7: <The crosstable news was 16-year-old Kalmykian Sanan Sjugirov, an infant neither tender nor mild, demolishing leader Peter Svidler in just 23 moves. It may take a few minutes to figure out exactly why Black is resigning, especially since White's last move is prophylaxis, but the tactical threats are overwhelming and Black loses material by force. Of course you need your opponent's help to win that quickly, but still impressive play from the teen, who was mentioned as a seven-year-old (? something like that) in JC Hallman's 2003 book "The Chess Artist." [...]
On the black side of a Caro-Kann, Svidler pushed a few too many Pawns That Must Not Be Pushed and his position was soon crawling with more weaknesses than a French alcoholic in a room full of escargot au vin rouge.> from Daily Dirt by Mig Greengard |
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Dec-25-09
 | | Shams: <The crosstable news was 16-year-old Kalmykian Sanan Sjugirov, an infant neither tender nor mild, demolishing leader Peter Svidler in just 23 moves. It may take a few minutes to figure out exactly why Black is resigning, especially since White's last move is prophylaxis, but the tactical threats are overwhelming and Black loses material by force. Of course you need your opponent's help to win that quickly, but still impressive play from the teen> http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt... |
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| Dec-25-09 | | Raern: After seeing the game, this made me laugh: "Caro-Kann Defense: Advance. Short Variation" |
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Dec-25-09
 | | whiteshark: <10...Be7!> looks good (w/o a6/b5 pawn moves). After ...0-0 and ...Nb6 --> vs c4.
And <13...0-0!> was still playable as Hesam7 already mentioned. For the rest: Flirting with disaster. |
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Dec-25-09
 | | notyetagm: 23 c2-c3 1-0
click for larger viewIs it really 1-0? YES!
http://www.thechessmind.net/storage... <What? 23.c3 and Black resigns? It's obvious at a glance that Black is worse - the mighty knights on c5 and e5 testify to that. But is it really time to throw in the towel? Let's work things out. First of all, White has a threat: 24.Nxe6, because 24...Qxe6 25.Ng6+ and 26.Rxe6 wins. Ok, surely this isn't a problem, is it? Let's try 23...Rfe8. Oops, that fails to 24.Nf7+ winning the queen. Ok, 23...Rae8. That doesn't lose on the spot, but 24.axb5 axb5 25.Ra6 is terrible for Black. He can't protect the pawn with 25...Rc8 because of 26.Nxe6 Qxe6 27.Ng6+ or with 25...Ng7 due to 26.Ned7, while 25...Bxe5 26.Rxe5 creates new problems. The g5 pawn is hanging, Bxb5 is still a threat, and there's the further threat of 27.Qe2 with a double attack on e6 and h5. So what's left in our starting position? There's 23...Bxe5, but after 24.Rxe5 Black has the familiar problem of having to defend e6 and g5. How about 23...Ng7? Then 24.Bxh7 Kxh7 25.Qd3+ followed by infiltration on g6. <<<In sum, once we ignore the equal material and the fact that it's only move 23 and that a player of Svidler's immense ability is playing Black, and just look at the position on its merits, we can see that it really is horrible, really is lost.>>> [23.c3 Ng7 (23...Rfe8?? 24.Nf7+ ; 23...Rae8 24.axb5 axb5 25.Ra6 Bxe5 (25...Ne7 26.Ned7! ; 25...Rc8 26.Nxe6 Qxe6 27.Ng6+ Bxg6 28.Rxe6 ) 26.Rxe5  ; 23...Bxe5 24.Rxe5 ) 24.Bxh7 Kxh7 25.Qd3+ Kg8 26.Qg6 ] 1-0> |
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Dec-25-09
| | notyetagm: Shocking to see a 2750+ lose like this. |
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| Dec-25-09 | | Mr. Bojangles: <notyetagm: Shocking to see a 2750+ lose like this.> More shocking than this?
Anand vs Aronian, 2009 |
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Dec-25-09
| | notyetagm: <Mr. Bojangles: <notyetagm: Shocking to see a 2750+ lose like this.> More shocking than this?
Anand vs Aronian, 2009>
Ok, not *that* shocking. :-)
That's not just a 2750 but the World Champion! |
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| Dec-25-09 | | znsprdx: well I dunno - this isn't April Fool's Day 23...Kg7 and it is just another game, maybe a bit difficult...but lots of play. Please pardon my skepticism: These moves were required to make this position possible... Why 18...g5? [trying to play like Alekhine?-"on both sides of the board"] 19...Rf8?? [Rc8 was the natural move] and subsequently 22....Kh8??? [Was this made while the ink was drying on the cheque? "my boy win - 'DA?!' "] MERRY XMAS to all ...and to all a Good Knight |
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| Dec-25-09 | | Troller: 23..Kg7 24.Ned7 Rfe8 25.Nxf6 Kxf6 26.Re5 and Black has no good defence against the threat of g4. Kh8 must be to free Bf6 for an exchange on e5 (in case the queen does not cover g5 anymore). So there is an idea behind it, although this does not work out at this stage of the game of course. Horrible game by Svidler, but a nice scalp for the youngster. |
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Dec-25-09
| | notyetagm: http://chessninja.com/dailydirt/
MIG:
<On the black side of a Caro-Kann, Svidler pushed a few too many <<<Pawns That Must Not Be Pushed>>> and his position was soon crawling with more weaknesses than a French alcoholic in a room full of escargot au vin rouge.> |
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Dec-25-09
| | notyetagm: I love how Mig says that, <PAWNS THAT MUST NOT BE PUSHED>. :-) 22  b3-c5
click for larger viewThere are *HUGE* <HOLES> in the Black position on e5 and c5, and the e6- and g5-pawns are terribly weak, all because of <PAWN PUSHES>. Game Collection: Every time you push a pawn it weakens squares "Svidler pushed a few too many Pawns That Must Not Be Pushed" Svidler played this game like this 1500 player at one of my clubs. He loves to <PUSH PAWNS>, thinking he is <GAINING SPACE>, while all he is really doing is <CREATING PERMANENT WEAKNESSES>, just like Svidler did in this game. |
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Dec-25-09
| | notyetagm: The White <PASSED PAWN ARMY>, from Black's perpective: http://chessbase.com/news/2009/even... |
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Dec-25-09
 | | Fusilli: Well put, <Notyetagm>. <Hesam7: It seems that 13. ... f6, weakening e6, was a major mistake>. Yes, and 11...b5 doesn't look wise either. |
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Dec-25-09
 | | JohnBoy: "Short variation" - works for me. |
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Dec-25-09
 | | JointheArmy: I am going to have to keep my eyes on this kid. |
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Dec-25-09
 | | Ron: It seems that Svidler hardly plays the Caro-Kann Repertoire Explorer: Peter Svidler (black) I wonder why he decided to play it this time--the "draw with black" attitude? |
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Dec-26-09
| | notyetagm: <JohnBoy: "Short variation" - works for me.> Short indeed. |
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