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Alexey Shirov vs Fabiano Caruana
Corus Group A (2010), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 2, Jan-17
Spanish Game: Open. Bernstein Variation (C80)  ·  1-0


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Jan-17-10  LoFarkas: Can anyone tell me what the idea behind 47... c5 was? I just don't get what Caruana thought he was getting in return for the pawn.

Also, Rybka tells me 59... Kf7 was a mistake because it allowed the winning 60. f5 (score of +2.5 compared to +1 and +1.2 in other lines. The computer tells me that after 60. f5 and then either 60... exf5 or Bxf5, 61. c6 wins for white, and both lines are a lot better for white than playing c6 right away in the 60th move. Why?

Jan-17-10  ROADDOG: <Can anyone tell me what the idea behind 47... c5 was?> So he could route his Bishop to e4, protecting the pawns on h7 and d3, and keeping whites c pawn from advancing to c6.
Jan-17-10  Poisonpawns: <Can anyone tell me what the idea behind 47... c5 was?> I felt the same way as <LoFarkas> I understood why he made the move.The question was; did he have to? I thought a move such as 47..Ke8 would be just fine.
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: I didn't understand 47...c5 when I followed the game, and I still don't understand it now. Was the threat of Ra1-g1-g7 really that strong?
Jan-18-10  messachess: <47...c5>--must have felt the more active B was worth the sac.--preventing the advance of the f pawn, etc.
Jan-18-10  Atking: Why not simply 34...c5? Looks very drawish to me.
Jan-19-10  LoFarkas: My computer tells me 34... c5 is bad because of 35. bxc5 Rxc5 36. Ra3 and the d3 pawn is dead. (Obviously, if Bc4 then Ra8+ and mate on the next move.) Here's the rest of the line it spits out (after Ra3) h7h6 Ra3xd3 g7g5 Kg1f2 Kh8h7 Rd3a3 Rc5c2 Ra3a7+ Kh7g6 Kf2e3 Rc2a2 Ra7xa2 Bd5xa2 Ke3d4 It's a -0.5 score so not disastrous for black, but not good either.

I'm still not sure about 60. f5 though...

Jan-19-10  Atking: Thanks for your line <LoFarkas>. My point of view was without pawn on queen side and B working on opposite colors even pawn down on the same side that should be draw.
Jan-21-10  GreenFacedPatzer: Around move 45, I would've sworn this was a draw. Somehow Shirov saw weaknesses in black's position that weren't obvious to me. Understanding these endgames sometimes seems a dark art.
Feb-02-10  Ulhumbrus: An alternative to 20..Rxa5 is 20...Nxa5 heading for c4 attacking the square d2 in front of the passed d pawn. White can keep the N out by 21 b3 but that obstructs his KB on the a2-g8 diagonal.
Aug-09-14  tjipa: It seems, tomorrow we will witness another Caruana-Shirov encounter. Long time no see!
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