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| Feb-23-10 | | badest: Will white have enough time to produce winning moves? |
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Feb-23-10
 | | kb2ct: <Tabanus: Grischuk saying to himself, "<this> I can't lose, and I even have a winning chance"> Agreed, but slow strangulation is hard to pull off against a 2700. :0) |
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| Feb-23-10 | | Nightranger: < Red October: <I thought I was lost, but he offered a draw.> Men! never ask for directions... > Too funny! |
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| Feb-23-10 | | DEEPERGRAY: I would love to have white pieces in this position. |
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Feb-23-10
 | | Boomie: This could be one of those Capa exercises. Let's see...the knight goes to e5, bishop to c4, and rook to a6. All that's left are the details. Like how to avoid perpetual and other niceties. |
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| Feb-23-10 | | percyblakeney: I wonder if there even are any winning moves, at least the engine lines seem to make no progress for white but there should exist some losing moves for black though. |
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| Feb-23-10 | | Red October: this should be a bit better for White than the immediate Qc5+ |
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Feb-23-10
| | Boomie: <percyblakeney: I wonder if there even are any winning moves, at least the engine lines seem to make no progress> Engines are not going to be helpful here unless somebody blunders. The winning ideas are way beyond the horizens. |
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Feb-23-10
 | | Ulhumbrus: <virginmind: A. Grischuk - V. Topalov, XXVII Torneo Int'l de Ajedrez Ciudad de 2010 click for larger view
Analysis by Fritz 11:
1. (2.59): 43.e4 fxe4 44.Bxe4 Kg7 45.Bd3 Re5 46.Qc1 Rb6 47.Qa1 Qc5 48.Rc1 Qe3 49.Rc2 Qe1+ 50.Qxe1 Rxe1+ 2. (1.62): 43.Bd5 Qc5 44.Qe5 Rbc2 45.Nd3 Qxe3+ 46.Qxe3 Rxe3 47.Rd1 Rc3 48.Nf4 Re7 49.Rb1 Ra7 50.Rb4 Ra3 (me, Iasi 23.02.2010)>
The first variation by Fritz might be summarized in English as follows: White organizes his men to make a mating attack against Black's King. |
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Feb-23-10
 | | Shams: Now Nc2-d4-c6-e5 looks obvious. |
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Feb-23-10
| | kb2ct: Just optimize your pieces. The rook belongs on e5, the knight on d4 :0) |
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| Feb-23-10 | | Red October: after 48.Rb1 couldnt Topalov have won the Knight with Qc5+ ? this relay might be wrong ?!! |
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| Feb-23-10 | | Red October: oops no, sorry seeing ghosts... set up the position wrong.. |
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Feb-23-10
| | Shams: Where are people seeing Qc5+? The diagonal is still closed on the board I'm looking at. |
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Feb-23-10
| | Boomie: The maneuver Nd4-c6-e5 looks doable. Then Kf2 and Rg1 is a headache for black. The white king can find some refuge on the kingside. But the queen might interfere with this plan. |
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Feb-23-10
 | | Bobby Fiske: <Red October: after 48.Rb1 couldnt Topalov have won the Knight with Qc5+ ? this relay might be wrong ?!!> White can play 49. Nd4 |
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| Feb-23-10 | | zanshin: <Red October: after 48.Rb1 couldnt Topalov have won the Knight with Qc5+ ? this relay might be wrong ?!!> Isn't there a pawn preventing check? |
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Feb-23-10
 | | chancho: <Men! never ask for directions...> It's that pride thing... |
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| Feb-23-10 | | Red October: I had set up the position with exf4 instead of gxf4... hence the mistake.. |
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Feb-23-10
| | Boomie: Maybe an engine can play e4 but I would prefer waiting on that to give the king some shelter from queen checks. |
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Feb-23-10
 | | SetNoEscapeOn: Should be fairly straightforward now. |
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| Feb-23-10 | | HolyKnight: Did anyone else think Topalova's last move with the h pawn was a mistake |
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Feb-23-10
| | Ulhumbrus: Here is a game where a R. N and B prevailed against a Q and two pawns : V Neverov vs A Mastrovasilis, 2005 |
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Feb-23-10
| | Shams: I'm in Contracts class right now but finding this game much more interesting. I have a feeling Grischuk is about to give me a free lesson in winning such an endgame. |
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Feb-23-10
 | | whiteshark: I like the manouvre of ...h4 followed by ...g5 soon after (as shown in the line posted by <virginmind>. Pawn exchanges seems are a well proven defensive tool, despite the material imbalance. |
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