Sergey Karjakin vs Andrey A Ivanov (2010)

Sergey Karjakin vs Andrey A Ivanov
Russian Team Championships (2010) · Robatsch (B06) · 1-0

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Given 11 times; par: 41 [what's this?]

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Apr-05-10		pulsar: Black went pawn-grabbing and was severely punished for it. 16...Nd7 might be better.

Apr-05-10		ajile: Too many fancy queen moves by Black.

Apr-05-10		shalgo: <16...Nd7 might be better.> If 16...Nd7, then 17.Bxg6.

Apr-06-10		notyetagm: GID(Karjakin vs Ivanov Russian Team Championship 2010) 10 ... b6-d8 FEN Black has just played 10 ... b6-d8, apparently threatening to win a piece by the <REMOVAL OF THE GUARD> tactic 11 ... g4xf3 12 g2xf3 d8xd4. But is this tactical idea really a threat? 11 0-0-0! FEN Ho hum. Karjakin (White) says no, it's not and just castles long. 11 ... g4xf3 FEN Just <REMOVING THE GUARD> of the White d4-bishop, right? 12 d4xf6 FEN <Wrong! <<<FORCING MOVES SHOW YOU WHERE THE PIECES REALLY ARE, NOT WHERE THEY ONLY APPEAR TO BE !>>>. Forcing moves are <CHECKS>, <CAPTURES>, and <THREATS>. Because the White d4-bishop can <<<CAPTURE>>> the Black f6-knight, the White d4-bishop therefore has a <FORCING MOVE>, which means that it only <<<APPEARS>>> to be on the d4-square. This dark-squared White bishop is <<<ACTUALLY>>> on the f6-square, where it has just <CAPTURED> the Black f6-knight and threatens the Black d8-queen.> So, in summary, 11 ... g4xf3 does not(!) in fact <REMOVE THE GUARD> of the White d4-bishop because the White d4-bishop only <APPEARS> to be on d4. Since it is <ACTUALLY> on the f6-square, because it has the <FORCING MOVE> 12 d4xf6, 11 ... g4xf3 does not <REMOVE ITS GUARD>.

Apr-06-10		pulsar: <shalgo: <16...Nd7 might be better.> If 16...Nd7, then 17.Bxg6.> After 17...0-0-0 I think Black's position is better than what transpired in the game.

Apr-06-10		ounos: <because the White d4-bishop only <APPEARS> to be on d4> lol! And you only <appear> to make a point... :D

Apr-18-10		shalgo: <pulsar> <After 17...0-0-0 I think Black's position is better than what transpired in the game.> After 16...Nd7 17.Bxg6 0-0-0 18.Bf5 it still looks pretty grim for Black, I think.

Apr-24-12		LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score: Karjakin vs A A Ivanov, 2010. YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF KARJAKIN. Your score: 49 (par = 41) LTJ

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