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|Apr-30-10|| ||tilda: Well it is obvious that Anand is in full command of this match. The result will 6,5-4,5 to Anand.|
|Apr-30-10|| ||BobCrisp: Where's <kingcrusher>, he of the no-handshake canard?|
|Apr-30-10|| ||talisman: good to see topa learning how to be a good sport. next lesson "how to be a good loser".|
|Apr-30-10|| ||chessgames.com: Thanks to everyone for watching and commenting on today's game with us. A special thanks to Nigel Short, Natalia Pogonina, Ray Keene and Eric Schiller for their comments. Game 6 of the match is tomorrow at 8:AM USA/Eastern time. Hope to see you then!|
|Apr-30-10|| ||whiteshark: and other important things....|
|Apr-30-10|| ||queenfortwopawns: Oh well, a fair result, I guess. Though it is disappointing to not see the dancing Anand rook.|
|Apr-30-10|| ||MaxxLange: Set 'em up again.....|
|Apr-30-10|| ||rchamoun: Does anybody know who are the seconds for both Anand and Topa?????|
|Apr-30-10|| ||birthtimes: In chinese chess, stalemates are not permitted, the one who is stalemated, loses.|
|Apr-30-10|| ||Peligroso Patzer: <Nigel Short: *** People here tend to overstate the level of preparation ... ***>|
A very interesting comment, and something I have always suspected (i.e., that we patzers tend to assume too much in terms of what opening preparation for such a match encompasses, and specifically how many variations are worked out in detail how far). It would be interesting to hear more from GM Short on the nature of GM opening preparation for high-level matches in his future commentaries.
|Apr-30-10|| ||Ulhumbrus: One question is whether Anand could have won by playing 40...Kf5, instead of 40...a5 as in the game. The move 40...Kf5 threatens to invade by ...Ke4 and ...Kf3 and what is White going to do about it? On 40...Kf5 41 Bc2+ Nxc2 42 Rxc2 Rd3! attacks the g3 pawn. On 40...Kf5 41 Rc5 Ke4 42 Rxh5 Nf3+ 44 Bxf3 (44 Ke2?? Rd2+ forsing the White King away from his defence of the N) 44...Kxf3 45 Re5 Kxg3 46 Rxe6 Kf3 and the f5 pawn shields the Black King from checks, while the g4 pawn threatens to advance to its coronation.
On 40..Kf5 one possible answer to the threat of 41...Ke4 is 41 Kf2 preparing the check 42 Re3+ in reply to the invasion 41...Ke4, and then Re5+ in reply to 43 Re5+ in reply to 42..Kf5 or 42...Kd5.|
|Apr-30-10|| ||Caissanist: Wrt Topalov's not offering a handshake after a draw - I remember a story of Tim Krabbé's, where two players were battling it out in an olympiad. After thinking for a while, the first player looked at his opponent, smiled, and offered a handshake. The second player smiled back, and accepted the handshake. Then the first player wrote "1/2-1/2" on his scoresheet, while the second wrote "1-0".|
|Apr-30-10|| ||BobCrisp: < Wrt Topalov's not offering a handshake after a draw> Neither played offered a handshake. Equality on and off the board.|
|Apr-30-10|| ||Everett: <Caissanist> I hope the second player was vindicated.|
<MTuraga: both players shook hands> With each other, I hope! It would have been funny if Anand shook his own hand instead of waiting for Topalov's sportsmanship to kick in.
|Apr-30-10|| ||turbo231: <Nigel: Maybe they should give .6 points for a draw with advantage>|
I like your idea.
|Apr-30-10|| ||chesstoplay: < Ulhumbrus: > Some ideas on part of your post:|
< On 40...Kf5 41 Bc2+ Nxc2 42 Rxc2 Rd3! attacks the g3 pawn. >
< Bc2 + > is inaccurate here, a position and tempo changer.
Be2 keeps the Rook at c3 plus the King up with the move if N x B.
< On 40...Kf5 41 Rc5 Ke4 42 Rxh5 > R x h5 is an error here
< Nf3+ 44 Bxf3 > , then Black plays KxB and the g3 pawn is lost.
< Ke4 > is practically losing to Re5 + as Kd3 is forced.
The positional change with tempo now allows White Rxh5 and 1-0.
You have very good ideas! Your post made me stop and think.
|Apr-30-10|| ||Domdaniel: <Caissanist> -- <Then the first player wrote "1/2-1/2" on his scoresheet, while the second wrote "1-0".>
This almost happened to me last month. I had a won endgame, my opponent offered a draw, and I declined clumsily by saying something like "I think I'll play on". He beamed and reached out to stop the clock and shake my hand in gratitude. I had to make it clear I meant 'no'.|
In future I'll just *say* 'no'.
|Apr-30-10|| ||Shams: <Domdaniel> Did you bring home the point?|
|Apr-30-10|| ||rossvassilev: more lackadaisical play with White from Topalov. why did he exchange queens again? isn't White supposed to attack? isn't the queen the strongest attacking piece? he won game 1 largely with the queen. I'm starting to think he's intentionally throwing the match. unless he's just plain lost his senses.|
|Apr-30-10|| ||Domdaniel: <Shams> Yes, thanks. But it was close -- not on the board, but the part of me that wanted to avoid any possible hassle and concede the draw.|
Some players refuse draw offers by saying nothing, looking impassive, and just making a move. Which is within the rules but seems a bit rude to me.
The whole area of how draws are offered and accepted seems to be full of pitfalls.
|Apr-30-10|| ||anjyplayer: Anand will retain the crown. Its all over.|
|Apr-30-10|| ||A Karpov Fan: I have played 7.g3 before here and got a good game if I remember right. Maybe Toppy should have tried that.|
|Apr-30-10|| ||capanegra: From http://www.novinite.com/view_news.p...:|
<The team of the Bulgarian chess master Veselin Topalov hopes to have finally managed to figure out how to beat the defenses of world champion Anand in the remaining games of the World Chess Title Match in Sofia.
This has been stated before the start of the fifth game of the 12-game match by Silvio Danailov, the personal manager of Veselin Topalov. The Indian world champion Viswanathan is in the lead 2.5:1.5 points after the first four games.
"We hope to have finally figured out the secret of Anand’s defense. We have five people on our team working with top notch computers on this task, and we hope to see results today," Danailov explained.>
|Apr-30-10|| ||HeMateMe: <His problem is that he is facing Anand in every game. -Not a mix of various GMs > I think so too. Topalov might be a better tournament player than most, but might be only average as a match player (relatively speaking, of course).|
I think Topa gets his 2800 rating by killing average GMs in tournament play, but he may have some problems facing one, very strong player over and over.
|Apr-30-10|| ||Shams: <Shams><But it was close -- not on the board, but the part of me that wanted to avoid any possible hassle and concede the draw.>|
I can relate to that. It was your point-- good for you for not letting go.
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