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Viswanathan Anand vs Veselin Topalov
Anand - Topalov World Championship Match (2010), Sofia BUL, rd 7, May-03
Indian Game: Anti-Nimzo-Indian (E10)  ·  1/2-1/2
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May-03-10
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  Eyal: 26.Rc7? loses to 26...Bxc3 27.bxc3 Qb2! e.g. 28.Ne4 (28.Nxc4 Qxc3) 28...f5 29.Nf2 Re2.

28...Qb2 allows White to draw with 29.Qh3 and a perpetual on c8/f5 if Black takes on c3 or d2.

May-03-10  goodevans: Whilst we're all picking over the bones of what was a far more interesting draw than game 6, here's my contribution to the post mortem: Why did Topa exchange bishops before playing ... Re2? Simplifying just seemed to make defending that much easier.
May-03-10  ajile: <chessic eric:>

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Remember this is a KIBITZING forum for a GAME. The idea is people come here to relax and enjoy the game we love and make comments. We don't need jerks coming in here and starting fights.

May-03-10
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  Eyal: <Why did Topa exchange bishops before playing ... Re2? Simplifying just seemed to make defending that much easier.>

In case of 26...Re2 27.Bxb4 Qxb4, 28.Qh3! again equalizes for White since Black has to retreat in order to defend against the threat of 29.Ra8+ Kh7 30.Qf5+ with mate; 28...Qb7 29.Rd1 or 28...Qc5 29.Ne4.

May-03-10  Mac3: Some interesting analysis on the game at www.chessvibes.com

With 42. Qa4! White could have prevented the black pawn going to d2. 42... Qd5+ (42... d2? 43. Qc2+ ) 43. Kf1 Qe6 44. Qa2! Qd5 (44... Qc6 45. Qa1! Qd5 46. Qe1! ) 45. Qa6+ Kg7 46. Qa7+ Kg6 47. Qe3! Shipov.

May-03-10  Inf: Many here claim this is one of the most enjoyable match in a WC so far...

This is because neither Kramnik or Leko are playing (Even Karpov). We have here 2 players that want and are hungry for wins, not draws! Go chess!

May-03-10
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  Eyal: <With 42. Qa4! White could have prevented the black pawn going to d2. 42... Qd5+ (42... d2? 43. Qc2+ ) 43. Kf1 Qe6 44. Qa2! Qd5 (44... Qc6 45. Qa1! Qd5 46. Qe1! ) 45. Qa6+ Kg7 46. Qa7+ Kg6 47. Qe3! Shipov.>

During the game Shipov thought this was winning for White, but later he changed his mind and in his video summary of the game (http://www.crestbook.com/files/Sofi...) he suggests that 44...Kg7!! in this line, ignoring the threat of Nxd3, leads to a draw: 45.Nxd3 (45.Qd2 Kf6!! ready to meet 46.Qe1 with 46...Qxe1+ 47.Kxe1 Ke5! =) 45...Qf6+ 46.Nf2 Qxc3 with a view to eventually playing h5 if White tries to activate his queen and knight, e.g. 47.Qa7+ Kg6 48.Qa6+ Kg7 49.Qb7+ Kg6 50.Qe4+ Kg7 51.Kg2 Qb3 52.Qd4+ Kg6 53.Ne4 Qc2+ 54.Kf3 Qb3+ 55.Nc3 Qb7+ 56.Nd5 Qf7+ 57.Kg3 h5.

May-03-10  rafnoc22: hahahahahahah.... As chess becoming more ENJOYABLE,, comments are also becoming Hotter..enjoyable too..

My fellow kibitzers,, just remember my comments previously... That game 2 was the most important game for topalov. that if he won that game..he will be champion..but he did not. I know Anand more than anybody in the chess world..He had the type of Fischer's resistance. as games go longer., both of them play better and more.. STILL..THE WORLD cHAMPION.. HEHEHE,.

May-04-10  nuwanda: <With 42. Qa4! White could have prevented the black pawn going to d2. 42... Qd5+ (42... d2? 43. Qc2+ ) 43. Kf1 Qe6 44. Qa2! Qd5 (44... Qc6 45. Qa1! Qd5 46. Qe1! ) 45. Qa6+ Kg7 46. Qa7+ Kg6 47. Qe3! Shipov.>

i starred long at the position after blacks move 41 (with brain and comp). i think its best to reroute the queen to the e-file and then slowly bring the pieces to better positions. in this case i think it would have been hard for black to hold the draw, e.g.

42.Qa4 Qd5+ 43.Kf1 Qe6 44.Qd1 Qf6 45.Qe1 Kg7 46.Kg2 Kf7 47.Ne4 Qe6 48.Qf2+ Kg6 49.Qf3


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of course black has chances due to the reduced material, but if i had to bet, i would say its a win for white

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May-04-10  Kazzak: This seems very intricate, but seems a better path to the d4 square which eluded the white Queen in the game.


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39.Qb1-a2 Qe6-d5 40.Qa2-a6 Kh7-g8 41.Nf2-d1 Kg8-h7 42.Qa6-a7 Qd5-b5 43.Qa7-d4 Qb5-b3 44.Nd1-e3 or Nf2

May-04-10  gus inn: <danielpi> This is the first time I have blown the whistle. Your remark to <ajile> is beyond any decency and you have a lot to explain if you shall not remain seen as one of the rudest bypassers on Chessgames.Com.
May-04-10  acirce: Kibitzing probation for that guy, please.
May-04-10  drawocoward: the comments above are really the most disgusting thing i have read on this website. I personally hope the poster gets a life time ban from chessgames.com
May-04-10  Whitehat1963: Yeah, that's pretty harsh.
May-04-10  raju davis: 46 kf3 qd5+ and d8 Q PROBABLY STILL DRAW
May-04-10  Ulhumbrus: To quote Malcolm Pein in the <The week in chess> (TWIC) chess column: <... with some accurate moves Topalov had just enough resources to hold the position and after trying a number of approaches the game was eventually agreed by repetition. However it does seem that Anand might have missed a forced win 42.Qa4! but really only in the world of computers...>

The chess vibes page quotes the analysis of Qa4 which Shipov has given in his crestbook page : < 42 Qa4! Qd5+ <42...d2+ 42 Qc2+> 43 Kf1 Qe6 44 Qa2! Qd5 < 44...Qc6 45 Qa1! Qd5 46 Qe1!> 45 Qa6+ Kg7 46 Qa7+ Kg6 47 Qe3! > (Shipov)

Here is my explanation of the analysis.

Black draws because he is able to keep White's King out of e2 because from this square White's King can help to stop or capture Black's d2 pawn. If The White King can do that, Black loses because either the d2 pawn falls, or else the White Queen and Knight become freed to attack Black's King, or both.

Converse Black loses if he allows White's King to come to e2 where at the cost of repetition, he can help to stop or capture the d2 pawn and free White's Q and N to attack Black's King.)

After 42 Qa4 the advance 42...d2 allows the fork Qc2+, so Black has to support the advance...d2 by 42...Qd5+ first.

That however removes the Black Queen from the e file and 43 Kf1 heads for e2 (eg 43...d2 44 Ke2)

So 43...Qe6 stops the King from coming closer.

Then 42 Qa2 keeps the Black Q tied to the defence of the c4 pawn and covers e2.

If the Black Queen now keeps possession of the 6th rank by 42...Qc6, 43 Qa1 heads for e1 and on 44...Qd5 45 Qe1 the advance of the d pawn allows White's King to reach e2: 45...d2 46 Qe8+ Kg7 47 Ke2!.

If instead of 44...Qc6 Black leaves the 6th rank unguarded by 44...Qd5, 45 Qa6+ forces the Black King to go to the seventh rank and on 45..Kg7 46 Qa7+ forks the black King and the point e3. On 46...Kg6 47 Qe3 once again the White King cannot be prevented from approaching d1.

May-04-10  Kazzak: I see that Monokroussos touches upon the same 39. Qa2 line, with the same goal of reaching d4.

<White is better now, but I think with 39.Qa2 he could have had a substantial advantage. The threat of Nxd3 gained a tempo, and after something like 39...Qd5 40.Qa7 Qe6 41.Qd4 his beautifully centralized queen gives him a nice edge. Now White's still a little better after 41.fxg4, but 41...d2 ties White down enough to make it very hard for him to make progress. That's why it was so great for him to get in Qd4 in the 39.Qa2 line.>

http://www.thechessmind.net/blog/20...

May-04-10
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  Eyal: <nuwanda: 42.Qa4 Qd5+ 43.Kf1 Qe6 44.Qd1 Qf6 45.Qe1 Kg7 46.Kg2 Kf7 47.Ne4 Qe6 48.Qf2+ Kg6 49.Qf3>

Yeah, I think 44.Qd1 is an improvement on Shipov's 44.Qa2 (where, as mentioned in my previous post, Black can apparently save himself by 44...Kg7) - this way the queen gets faster to the e-file; if Black tries 44...Kf6, to meet 45.Qe1 with a queen exchange and Ke5, leading to a draw, then White has 45.Qf3+ followed by Ne4/Qe4.

Monokroussos gives another winning-looking line after 42.Qa4: 42...h5 43.gxh5+ Kxh5 44.Qa7 (again preventing ...d2) 44...Qd5+ 45.Kf1 Kg6 (45...d2?? 46.Qh7# ) 46.Qe3 (threatening a winning queen trade) 46...Kf7 47.Qe4 Qb5 48.Kg2 (http://www.thechessmind.net/storage...).

May-04-10  anjyplayer: Excellent Topa. This form can outplay Anand. After a long time, we are seeing excellent world championship.
May-04-10  Ezzy: An amazing game!! Great preparation from Topalov and his team. Famous for his exchange sacrifices, Topalov decides to 'pull one out of the bag' in a world championship match. It was an exchange sacrifice of the highest quality which put the World Champion an hour behind on the clock.

I must say, Anand must be one of the best defenders in the world. He didn't put a foot wrong in his defensive efforts, and just missed out on tipping the balance in his favour later in the game.

It was psychologically interesting that both players refused immediate drawing lines to continue to strive for the win. This was chess at it's fighting best!!

Since the first game, Anand hasn't really been troubled, but Topalov put him under the cosh for a while in this game. He threw everything AND the kitchen sink at Anand, but Anand's defensive move were extreme quality, and he seems to be in top form.

What can Topalov do now to break through and equalise the scores? I'm not sure, but one thing is clear, Topalov is going to fight to the death in this match.

What a great struggle between these two chess giants. It's enthralling and addictive.

One minute everybody is talking about Topalov's passive opening play, and the next minute he his releasing his bombs. This is going to be a memorable second half of the match I'm sure.

Bring it on!

May-05-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game in two parts:

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qRO...

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKlL...

May-21-10  Ulhumbrus: If with best play the sacrifice 9...b5! is sound, this suggests that the acceptance of the sacrifice by 10 Nxc6? has the effect merely of losing White's initiative.

This suggests that instead of 10 Nxc6 it is better for White to decline the offer and to play for sustained pressure instead by 10 a4! to be followed by Na3 as in games two, four and six.

Jun-06-10  Little Chest Partner: Here are some critical positions:

After 9...b5


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10.Nxc6 Nxc6 11.Bxc6 Ba6 12.Bxa8 Qxa8 13.a3 Qc6 14.Nc3 Bb7 15.f3 Rd8 16.Qc2 Rxd4 17.Be3 Rd7 18.Bxa7 Ng4 19.Kh1 Bc5 20.Bxc5 Qxc5 21.Ne4 Bxe4 22.Qxe4 Ne3 23.Qa8+ Qf8 24.Qxf8+ Kxf8 25.Rfe1 Rd2 26.Rab1 e5 27.Kg1 f5 28.Kf2 f4 29.gxf4 exf4 30.Rg1 h6 (0.85) Depth: 23/56 00:04:48 185mN

And that line results in this position:


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Of course no sane human would go into this endgame as black, because is, at least, lost, so an improvement may be needed. For example, Iīm very critical of the 11...Ba6 RobboLito suggests, or 16...Rd4 or 19...Bd5, losing the B pair for nothing.

After 20.Rxa7


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20...Re8 21.Kg2 Bd6 22.Bc1 h6 23.Nd2 Bc5 24.Ra2 d3 25.Ne4 f5 26.Nc3 Qb3 27.Bd2 Bd4 28.Qb1 Bxc3 29.Bxc3 Re2+ 30.Kh1 Qb7 31.Qf1 Re3 32.Kg2 Re2+ 33.Kg1 Qb6+ 34.Kh1 Qe3 35.Ra1 Kh7 36.Rd1 Qb6 = (0.23) Depth: 23/56 00:06:30 259mN

After 21.Kh1


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21...Qxb2 22.Qe1 h6 23.Na3 c3 24.Bf4 d3 25.Rxe7 Rxe7 26.Qxe7 d2 27.Qe8+ Kh7 28.Qe4+ Kg8 29.Qa8+ Kh7 30.Qe4+ = (0.00) Depth: 25/58 00:08:14 345mN

It forces a draw by perpetual check by White. Still Kh1 remains misterious: did Anand think that it had threat potential from, say, a7-g1 diagonal? Or rather he thought that Kg2 could have been extensively analized by Topa (as the position where the K had to be in order to be attacked as he planned)and decided to try this nuance so that Topa had to think more and, most important get out of his "book".

About the B response, maybe Topa new, or found out, about how drawish Qxb2 was and tried to avoid it. That would "explain" the awkward 21...Bf8

After 24...h6, 25.Qh3 would have been very strong, but that line has been posted somewhere else.

Despite the position, during the middlegame, looking very dinamic and full of tension, engines donīt give more than tiny advantage for white, nothing good enough to score a point.

After 27...Qa4


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29.Ra1 Qb5 30.Rd1 Qe5 31.Nxc4 Qxc3 32.Nd6 Qc2 33.Ne4 f5 34.Rc1 Rxh2+ 35.Kg1 Rg2+ 36.Kh1 Rh2+ = (0.00) Depth: 26/63 00:08:03 355mN

Again, draw by perpertual, this time forced by black

After 29.Ne4


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29...f5 30.Rd2 fxe4 31.Rxe2 dxe2 32.Qxe2 Qa1+ 33.Kg2 Qxc3 34.Qxe4 Qb2+ 35.Kf1 Qb5 36.Kf2 Qc5+ 37.Ke2 Kh8 38.Qe8+ Kh7 39.Qe3 Qc7 40.Qe4+ g6 41.Kd2 Qa5+ 42.Kc2 Qa2+ 43.Kc3 Qxh2 44.Qe7+ Kg8 45.Qe8+ Kg7 46.Qe5+ Kh7 47.Qc7+ Kh8 48.Qe5+ Kh7 = (0.00) Depth: 25/60 00:06:04 271mN

RobboLito recommends f5. As you will remember, f5 was played in the game, but several turns later. Also, most people would think "What does it matter, if itīs a draw anyway?"

The conclusion that Topa Team extracted from this was that, to surprise in the opening, is better the Grobīs Attack.

Dec-12-12  arunjangity3: Wrong answer. Hope this helps someone.
Dec-24-17
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  Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKk....
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