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Magnus Carlsen vs Wang Yue
King's Tournament (2010)  ·  King's Gambit: Accepted. Abbazia Defense (C36)  ·  1-0
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Jun-18-10
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  ajk68: Bridgeburner: In your first line, it looks like 50. Rxc6 would convert the material advantage - giving white access to the a-pawn. As far as I can tell, black's best line leads to queening a 1/2 move later with a pawn deficit. It's too complicated for me.
Jun-18-10  Bridgeburner: <ajk68>

That continuation is dead drawn:

After <50. Rxc6 bxc6 51. Kc5 Kd7 52.Kb6 g5 53. Kxa6 gxh4 54. gxh4 54. Kc7>:


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leads to a straightforward theoretical K vs K+RP draw:

<55.b5 cxb5 56.Kxb5 Kb7 57.Kc5 Ka6 58.Kd6 Kxa5> and Black gets his King over in time:

<59...Ke6 60. Kb5 Kxf6 61. Kc5 Kg5 62. Kd6! (<62. Kd5> loses) 62. Kxh5 Ke7!>:


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and Black can prevent White's h-pawn from queening.

Jun-19-10  HowDoesTheHorsieMove: Bridgeburner: <The stupendous number of possible moves in chess (something like 10 to the power of 120)...>

Yeah, but you only need to look at 10^45 or so positions. Piece of cake!

Jun-19-10  Bridgeburner: <Landman: GM Rogozenco answered my question: "[45...g5] loses by force, but on the other hand the position must be lost anyway. White brings the king to d4, then attacks with the rook the pawn f6, forcing Black to play Ke6, then White goes with the king to b6 and takes with the rook on b7, winning.">

With due respect to GM Rogozenco, that variation looks to actually lose for White, as Black's King side majority is sufficient to win if White sacs the exchange. Here's the position after <45. g3 Bc6 (instead of <45...g5>>:


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If now <46. Ke3 Kd6 47. Kd4 Bd7 48. Rc1 Bc6 49. Rf1 Ke6>:


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the plan to infiltrate the King and sac the exchange on b7 is a loser:

<50. Kc5 g5 51. Kb6 gxh5 52. gxh5 f5 53. Rg1 Ke5> is already drawn; if <54. Rg7 f4 55. Rxb7??> loses instantly to the advance of the f pawn after the Rook is captured. <55. Kc5> abandoning the exchange sac plan still draws.

Jun-19-10  Ulhumbrus: An alternative to 12...Qxd6 is 12...cxd6 denying the square e5 to White's King's Knight but allowing White's Queen's Knight - for the moment- to occupy the square d5.
Jun-21-10  Gogia: Pun: Let the king game a bit
Jun-21-10  ghaith: Very complicated end game but look at the last Tal-Kasparov one(Moscow Blitz 1992) and the other mysterious end game!! : 1-Tal Kasparov 1-0 (Kasparov refused to continue the game and Tal beat him on time in 17 moves!!):The link http://www.izles.net/Xn0mPFRpBbd/th... 2-http://www.izles.net/ozOPT7sbfs5/a-...
Jun-21-10
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  beenthere240: Since checkers has been provmen to be a draw with best play and the power of the first move seems to be even stronger in checkers than in chess, I think the idea that chess is a draw without an error is pretty reasonable.
Jun-28-10
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  Gypsy: <... Here's the position after 45.g3 Bc6 (instead of <45...g5>) 46.Ke3 Kd6 47.Kd4 Bd7 ...>

It still looks awfully difficult to save; for instance,

48.<Rc2> Bc6 49.Rf2 Ke6 50.Kc5...


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Now the

50...g5 51.hxg5 fxg5 52.Rh2... (the purpose of Rc2)


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and

52...h4 53.gxh4 gxh4 54.Rxh4...

seems to put Black in a pickle.


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Jun-28-10
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  ajk68: I agree with Bridgeburner's assessment of 50. Rxc6, although I still feel that an exchange sacrifice at the right time will win it. I've been looking at ideas where the White king moves to c5 and possible b6. A threat of a an exchange sacrifice can be used to get the black king back to the d-file. At that point, the rook takes control of the d-file, forcing black to decide to keep his king on the king- or queen-side. If the king goes queen-side, white neutralizes the pawn majority on the king-side. If black goes king-side, white sacs the exchange.

This would be very much like gypsy's line. The only feeling about gypsy's line is that black is not forced to make the g5 move. I think getting the Rook to d6 would force things.

Jun-29-10  Bridgeburner: <gypsy>, <ajk68>:

<52...h4 53.gxh4 gxh4 54.Rxh4...

seems to put Black in a pickle.>

.....

It seems that <52...Bf3> holds the line:


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The extra black pawn on king side prevents White from saccing the exchange on the queen side.

Jun-29-10
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  Gypsy: <Bridgeburner> You are right. (I actually had a more intricate rook dance originally; but there always was some defense.)
Jul-01-10  TugasKamagong: Carlsen's 46.g4 is a pawn maneuver that doesn't have a name. <Shams>, posting in the tournament kibitz page King's Tournament (2010) a few minutes after that move was played, called it "the Mongolian tactic."

I can't find a game where a Mongolian player made this maneuver, so I guess <Shams> was alluding to some brilliant 13th-century war tactic by Genghis Khan at say, the Battle of Badger Pass. Anyway, I propose that we use <Sham>'s term and call this the Mongolian Tactic or perhaps the Mongolian Break-through.

I first saw this move in Tim Krabbé's website. (If I ever had a chance to play this move over the board I must have missed it completely, patzer that I am.) Krabbé doesn't have a name for it. He calls it "a move rarely seen" and a "break-through" and "an ultimate outside passsed pawn". After mentioning that (according to his research) it was first played by an Italian player named Salvioli in 1888, Krabbé refers to it as "Salvioli's move" without however proposing that that be its proper name.

I'm torn between combining <Shams>'s and Krabbé's terms and calling it the Mongolian Break-Through—or calling it the Salvioli Move. What do you guys think?

That move is entry #322 (dated 17 August 2006) of Tim Krabbé's Open Chess Diary

http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/...

and Krabbé shows us a number of games in which it was a missed opportunity, with the most recent being played in 2007.

If my count is correct, Krabbé gives 33 cases were the opportunity arose, and in 22 of those, the move was not found. I guess it's just not that easy to see. Most of the players of those games are unknown to me, even the ones who found the move.

Krabbé's most interesting example of a missed opportunity did not occur in actual play but only in analysis...in Lisitsin vs Capablanca, 1935

Keres missed the move 62.g4 in his analysis. Good thing that in this game Carlsen didn't.

Jul-07-10  freeman8201: quite a good observation TugasKamagong

I am going to have to remember this tatic. Although I am familiar with it when the pawns are on the 6th rank.

Dec-22-10
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  Eyal: Great positional play by Carlsen (supported by "localized" tactics), in the way he takes advantage of his space advantage in the centre, and then the passed d-pawn.

A couple of good drawing opportunities missed by Wang Yue prior to the exchange sac and 45…g5?:


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25...f6! (instead of Re8 - suggested by Rogozenco on chessbase) which seems to force 26.Nxg6 (26.Nc4? loses a piece to 26...Qb4 27.Rc1 b5; 26.Nf3 loses the d-pawn to 26...Bf7 27.Rd1 Rd8) 26...hxg6 and apparently Black can hold, e.g. 27.Re6 Qc5 28.Qxc5 Rxc5 29.d6 Rd5.


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30…Bd3! (instead of Be6 – a nice trick suggested by the engines): 31.d7 Bb5 32.Nd5 Qf1+ 33.Kh2 f6! (33...Rxd7? 34.Re8+ Kh7 35.Qe4+ f5 36.Qe6 Bc4 [otherwise 37.Nf6+] 37.Qxd7; 33...Bxd7? 34.Re3! followed by Rg3/f3 with a winning attack) 34.Ne7+ (now 34.Re3 can be answered by 34...Rxd7) 34...Kh7 35.Qe4+ f5 36.Nxf5 (or 36.Rxf5 Qe2) and Black is saved by 36...Bc6! 37.Qg4 (37.Qc2 Qf4+ 38.Ng3+ Kh8) 37...Rxd7.

Jan-09-11
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  jmboutiere: 27...Qf8 better than 27...Qf6
28...b5 better than 28...h6
if 35...Bd7 than 36.Rd5 and white wins
Jan-09-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  jmboutiere: 45...Ke5 better than 45...g5
47...Bc6 better than 47...Be4
Jan-09-11
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  jmboutiere: if 51.Kg1 than black equalises with 51...f3 !!!
final position mate in 12:
54...f1Q 55.Qe8 Kf5 56.Qd7 Kg6 mate in four; 56...Ke5 57.Qe7 Kf5 58.Rc5 Kg4 59.Rg5 Kh4 60.Rg6 Kh3 61.Rh6 Kg2 62.Qb7 etc.
Jan-09-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Shams: <TugasKamagong> <I can't find a game where a Mongolian player made this maneuver, so I guess <Shams> was alluding to some brilliant 13th-century war tactic by Genghis Khan at say, the Battle of Badger Pass. Anyway, I propose that we use <Sham>'s term and call this the Mongolian Tactic or perhaps the Mongolian Break-through.>

Yes, who can forget the carnage that day at Badger Pass.

I had thought Fischer used the term "Mongolian tactic" for this? Not sure where I read that.

Feb-20-11  Everett: My goodness, 46.g4 is a simple pawn breakthrough, and has been covered in every single endgame book i have read recently. No need for a special name.
Feb-20-11  Kapablanca: 28... b5, then 29... Bd3 and now is white who has to play for the draw. Think about it...
Apr-09-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  wordfunph: "Things weren't going so well in the tournament; I thought I just try it and see how it goes."

- Magnus Carlsen (after surprising everyone by playing the King's Gambit)

Dec-16-11  LIFE Master AJ: An amazing choice of opening systems ... especially for the folks who have opined that: "The KIng's Gambit is a weak opening." (What rubbish.)

The position after White's 19th move:


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If I could get these kind of positions, all of the time, (guaranteed); I would play this opening ... and nothing else.

Dec-16-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lost in space: yups, a nice white advantage. More space, good center control, good piece activity, all white pieces on good squares, rooks already active in the center and connected, King-safety is good enough.
Nov-18-13  Poisonpawns: 6..Be6 I prefer as a bit stronger as it has the threat of Nd3.
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