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Ruslan Ponomariov vs Vladimir Kramnik
"Ponomatopoeia" (game of the day Mar-22-2014)
Dortmund (2010), Dortmund GER, rd 2, Jul-16
Catalan Opening: General (E00)  ·  1-0
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Mar-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gilmoy: As to the GotD pun: how does this game
"phonetically <or chessically> imitate, resemble or suggest the source of the sound <stem game?> that it describes"? Otherwise, it's a low tier of pun that isn't specific to this game, and could equally apply to any of Pono's other games.

So if we venture: <15.biff! gee 16.bdoom!! eek 17.nyaaaa quail 18.nice>, then smirking amidst shocked silence. To end with ...

<35.roooooooosh> like rocket, da? <uf-da!! ow>

Mar-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  An Englishman: Good Evening: Today's title is a pun on "Onomatopoeia" (n.): 1. a word whose pronunciation is its meaning, as in "splat," "bam," or "meow;" 2. the title of a bizarre love song by Todd Rundgren from the album "Hermit of Mink Hollow."
Mar-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: "Oh Vladdy! I'm not your Daddy!"
Mar-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  morfishine: Adding or subtracting a letter (or letters) from a word so it rhymes with another word, does not, as a stand alone application, necessarily constitute a pun, unless there is the requisite reference, which this one lacks. pathetic
Mar-22-14  goodevans: We've had some poor puns for GOTD recently but this one's particularly dire.

I embrace the poor pun!

The poor pun normally means a good game, as is the case today. Sadly, Thursday's GOTD was a double disappointment that broke the usual rule.

Mar-22-14  backrank: One of the great games of the 21st century.
16 Bxd5!! is a stunning move, and 19 e6! is a worthy follow-up.
Mar-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <Kinghunt: < Ulhumbrus: 4...Be7 loses a tempo for development.>

Annotating by result. 4...Be7 is the main move in that position and a very well accepted part of Catalan theory.>

Annotating by stupidity is more the idea which springs to mind.

Had Black exchanged at d2, <u> would have criticised him for helping White's development, which makes the manoeuvre with ....Bb4 a win-win for the king of dogma.

Mar-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: <morfishine: Adding or subtracting a letter (or letters) from a word so it rhymes with another word, does not, as a stand alone application, necessarily constitute a pun, unless there is the requisite reference, which this one lacks. pathetic>

When the pun is good, you denigrate the level of play <Thorbing Headache>. When the level of play is good, you denigrate the pun <this game>.

<You> try coming up with 365 great games AND with great puns every year. It's not so easy.

Mar-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  morfishine: <thegoodanarchist> Thanks, I always enjoy your posts!

I always try to augment criticism with solutions. For example, I sent to <CG> the suggestion that they create a new segment for a "Pun Game" and leave the segment for a "Game of the Day" as it should be: a truly interesting game that is thrilling for both sides.

True, its hard to combine a great pun with a great game; <FSR> has made this point and I am in complete agreement.

At the very least, lets have the pun reference back the to the specific chess game, or at least to chess in general. Too often, the pun references in the opposite direction, focusing on some song, sitcom, composition, event or something obscure not even related to chess at all; or at the worst, just some rhyme, like today

It is hard, but not insoluble, like chess in general :)

*****

Mar-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: <An Englishman> -- < Today's title is a pun on "Onomatopoeia" (n.): 1. a word whose pronunciation is its meaning, as in "splat," "bam," or "meow;" 2. the title of a bizarre love song by Todd Rundgren from the album "Hermit of Mink Hollow.">

There's also a John Prine song: "Onomatopeia, I don't want to hear ya, speaking in a foreign tongue..."

<Morf> I also suggested to CG that they should have both a daily pun game and a daily quality game. Don't think it'll happen, though.

Mar-22-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: <perf> -- <Annotating by stupidity is more the idea which springs to mind.> Ouch. I know what you mean, but let's be charitable. Call it <Annotating by Inertia> or <the argument from antiquity>...?
Mar-22-14
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  perfidious: <Dom> Maybe you're right; just tire of seeing the same old pablum, which merely misleads those who wish to learn.
Mar-22-14  Nicocobas: <all> I assume that today's pun is a play on the word "onomatopoeia," which means "the creation of words that imitate natural sounds." If that is the case, how does the pun relate to this game?
Mar-22-14  Nicocobas: Please ignore my previous post. I didn't see the commentaries that others had already posted on the topic.
Mar-23-14
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  morfishine: <Domdaniel> If <CG> won't listen to someone of your stature, that pretty much settles that
Mar-23-14
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  OhioChessFan: Really bad pun, and I don't mean that in a good sense. Contrary to everyone else I've seen weigh in on the matter, I always thought the puns should be foremost and the games, if they were good, would be a bonus. The overall level of the puns is not good, but to come up with one every day is a Herculean task. The 20 best efforts by the membership a few years ago was an agonizingly bad effort, and that was from a combined thousands of entries.
Mar-23-14
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  perfidious: <Dom <Morf> I also suggested to CG that they should have both a daily pun game and a daily quality game. Don't think it'll happen, though.>

Pun games would be easy from the look of things-quality might be a bit tougher. Probably enough for the webmaster to do as things are.

Mar-23-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  morfishine: <perfidious> True, and I respect your opinion, but thats where I'm at on this issue: A "Game of The Day" should be an instructive game of high quality, from both sides (ideally). Save the puns for lesser, "fun-pun" type games
Mar-24-14
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  offramp: Kid Creole & His Merry Old Coconuts did a song called, <Vladdy, I am the Daddy> which contained the rousing chorus, <Ona-ona onomatopoeia!> repeated a thousand times.

That's the significance of the pun.

Mar-24-14
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  morfishine: <offramp> I want to hear that song! Sounds like great fun!
Mar-24-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: You should be able to see it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FOJ...

The onomatopoeia chorus starts at about 2:30.

The coconuts are in fine working order and look superb.

Mar-24-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: two simple rules on pawn endings:

1 get a passed pawn
2 push, push,push...

Mar-26-14
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  thegoodanarchist: <morfishine: <thegoodanarchist> Thanks, I always enjoy your posts!>

Well, Thank you! Not everyone does.

<I always try to augment criticism with solutions. For example, I sent to <CG> the suggestion that they create a new segment for a "Pun Game" and leave the segment for a "Game of the Day" as it should be: a truly interesting game that is thrilling for both sides>

This is a good idea.

Feb-01-16  yurikvelo: 18...Rc8? (gxf4!) - blunder which decided game outcome.

19...fxe6? (Bb5!) 20...Qe8? (gxf4!) 26...Rxb2? - gift Ponomariov easy win

multiPV: http://pastebin.com/jY7in2h1

May-13-16  posoo: MORFUSOON do NOT get angry because u do not possess da linguistic abillaty to UNDERSTAND da PUN! Obviosly

"Ponomatopoeia"

is a pun for

"Pono mate up heah!"

da mate is innevatable.

do NOT call people with linguistac brains "PATHETIC"

arguably dat in of ITSELF is patthetic.

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