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|Sep-24-10|| ||benjaminpugh: White to move at 32 would be a good Wed-Thurs puzzle.|
|Sep-25-10|| ||DrywallRickshaw: Did black move ...32 Rd1+ just so he could go home and tell his friends he put Topalov in check? I think so.|
|Sep-27-10|| ||hedgeh0g: Black to move and lose at 32 would be a good Monday puzzle.|
|Nov-24-10|| ||estrick: White could regain the exchange he's down with Bxf8, but that's obviously too pedestrian. It's apparent that Topalov must have sacked the exchange earlier in order to expose Black's king.|
I looked at 32. Rxc6 threatening Qg5+ and Rh6#. Black's only defense seems to be to give up his queen for the rook, leaving White with a decisive material advantage.
The actual game continuation is more convincing. It'll be interesting to see how many people claim they found it.
|Nov-24-10|| ||groobs168: I initially went with 32. Rxc6 (threatening Qg5 and mate next move) but didn't notice ...Qe6.|
32. Be7! stops that from happening and allows for 33. Qg5+ followed by 34. Bf6 with mate soon after.
|Nov-24-10|| ||rilkefan: "It'll be interesting to see how many people claim they found it."|
I thought it was very easy to find - easier than yesterday. And please dial down the bad faith.
|Nov-24-10|| ||OBIT: Hmm, I went with 32. Rxc6, and I don't see where White has any problems after 32...Qe6 33. Rxe6 fxe6 34. Qg6+ Kh8 35. Bxf8 Rxf8 36. Qxe6.|
|Nov-24-10|| ||Jimfromprovidence: I also got 32 Rxc6, forcing 32...Qxc6 33 Qxc6.
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Now, after 33...Rfe8, the threat is 34 Qf6 or 34 Qh6, seeing 35 Qg5+, at least picking up the f5 pawn.
|Nov-24-10|| ||Quentinc: The problem with 32. Rxc6 is 32...Rd1+ 33. Kg2 Qd8.|
|Nov-24-10|| ||rilkefan: 32.Rc6 Rd1+ 33.Kg2 Qh8 34.Kh3 I guess?
I just wanted to keep the black queen off e6 then noticed I could get the bishop to e6, plus Be7 simply looked beautiful - not a bad reason to pursue a move in a puzzle.
|Nov-24-10|| ||rilkefan: "32...Rd1+ 33. Kg2 Qd8" 34.Qh6 Qd5+ 35.Kh3 Qd2 36.Qh5 threatening Rh6 - what am I missing here? ...e4 37.Rh6 Qd4 38.Be7 (better late) looks good.|
|Nov-24-10|| ||dzechiel: White to move (32?). Black is up an exchange and a pawn. "Medium/Easy."|
If black can get in the move ...Qe6, he stands a good chance of winning, and an excellent chance of drawing.
I see that
threatens 33 Qg5+ Kh8 34 Rh6#. The king move
is met with
33 Qh6+ Kg8 34 Qg5+ Kh8 35 Rh6#
anyway. Black's rook on f8 isn't going anywhere. Now, black may be able to make it interesting with
32...Rd1+ 33 Kg2 Qd8
stopping the white queen check on g5 AND threatening to check the white king on d5.
Boy, the more I look at this, the more I don't like 32 Rxc6. The only other way I see to keep the black queen off of e6 is to block with the bishop. Let's see if that works...
OK, black gets a turn, but what does he do? The threat is 33 Qg5+ Kh7 34 Bf6, threatening 35 Qg7#, and the move 34...Rg8 allows 35 Qh5#.
If black tries to stop this with
then white simply plays
followed by 34 Bxf8 Qxf8 35 Qxf8+ Kxf8, leaving white a rook to the good.
I think this latter line is correct. Time to check.
|Nov-24-10|| ||Quentinc: <Rilkefan> if 34. Qh6, I'd play 34...Re8 with the thought of ...Re6. I'm not saying White won't win anyway, but this is a lot less clear than 32. Be7 (which you also got), which wins immediately.|
|Nov-24-10|| ||Jimfromprovidence: <Quentinc> <The problem with 32. Rxc6 is 32...Rd1+ 33. Kg2 Qd8.> |
That's a good point, because white ends up having to play the bishop to Be7 anyway on move 34.
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Now the threat is mate in two for white after Qg5+. Black can postpone losing with 34...Qd5+ 35 Kh3 or 34...Qa8 Kh3, but after that it's over.
|Nov-24-10|| ||Quentinc: Actually, if 34...Re8 35 Bf8! wins, similarly to the game.|
|Nov-24-10|| ||rilkefan: <Quentinc>: "Actually, if 34...Re8 35 Bf8! wins, similarly to the game."|
Doesn't 35...Rf8 win? Looks to me like Re6 is a good defensive threat - I'd probably reply 35.Rf6 Re6 36.Re6 e6 37.Qe6+ and try the Q+B+4p vs Q+R+p endgame - the long diagonal looks very strong.
|Nov-24-10|| ||al wazir: I think 32. Qg5+ Kh8 33. Bxf8 Qxf8 34. Rxc6 (my line) also wins, but it takes a lot longer. For example, 34...Rd1+ 35. Kg2 Rd6 (35...Qa8 36. Qf6+ Kg8 37. Kh3 Qd8 38. Qxd8 Rxd8 39. Rc5) 36. Rc4 Rh6 (36...Rd4 37. Rxd4 exd4 38. Qxf5 Qd8 39. Kf1, etc.) 37. Qxf5 (threatening 38. Rc8) Qg7 38. Rc5, and white picks off two more s. Tentatively I give myself two points, for a total of five this week.|
|Nov-24-10|| ||zenpharaohs: @al wazir: I came up with the same line as yours.|
|Nov-24-10|| ||M.Hassan: "Medium/Easy" White to play 32.?
Black is ahead by one pawn and a Rook for a Bishop
White can easily equalise by taking the Rook on f8 or 32.Qxf5 and let the Rook to be taken at a later move since the Rook can not displace itself easily. BUT,there is a move that can freak Black and bring about a mate threat:
If this Bishop is not taken and Black chooses to play other move, what is shown in red will happen:
<32......Ra8 33.Qg5+ Kh8 34.Bf6+ Kh7 35.Qg7#>
And it appears that Black can not resist for too long. Let's check the game
|Nov-24-10|| ||Once: Not too difficult today. White needs to bring another piece to the kingside to help his queen deliver mate. I played with Rc4 for a while, dreaming of Rh4 and Qg5+, but Qe6 or e4 spoil that plan.|
So 32. Be7 gets in behind the black pawns and stops black from offering the exchange with Qe6.
Some mutterings about my kibitzing yesterday, so today's is a plainer offering.
|Nov-24-10|| ||tacticalmonster: 1) White is down material: bishop for a rook and a pawn, but quality-wise White is much better: |
a) c6 pawn is about to drop off
b) bishop control the important a3-f8 diagonal while f8 rook has no square to go to. Should White play Bxf8? Definitely not because the bishop is a much better piece than the f8 rook.
c) White's queen occupy powerful f6 square eyeing the weakened Black king's position while Black queen is stuck on the back rank.
2) White should exploit the lousy position of the black king but the queen alone cannot force issue. Where should the white rook make its' dramatic entrance to assist the white queen?
3) Black is threatening to free his position with 32...Qe6 trading the powerful f6 queen and the f8 rook gets out of the a3-f8 diagonal.
candidate: 32 Rxc6
a) 32...Rd1+ 33 Kg2 Qd8 34 Be7 Qd5+ 35 Kh3 (white is threatening 36 Qg5+ followed by 37 Rh6#) Qd2 36 Bxf8 Kxf8 37 Rd8+ - Black cannot avoid huge loss of material
|Nov-24-10|| ||gmalino: OTB, I would play
with the mate-thread of
I don't see any defence for black here. The only piece that can block the battery is blacks Queen, but after
it's obviously over.
Another line could be
with mate next move
Seems to be too easy for wednesday
|Nov-24-10|| ||LIFE Master AJ: 32.Be7 here?|
|Nov-24-10|| ||LIFE Master AJ: The line of: 32.Rxc6 Qxc6; 33.Qxc6 Rfe8; 34.Qf6 Rd1+; 35.Kg2 Rb8; 36.Be7, ( ) also works here.|
|Nov-24-10|| ||gmalino: Ah, yes, so it's not too easy for wednesdays!
I missed 33.....Qd8
but as <Jimfromprovidence> pointed out, this is not working for black.
But the way to win is much longer for white after
32. Rxc6 Qxc6
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