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|Oct-14-10|| ||SatelliteDan: Oct-14-10
<SetNoEscapeOn: A really tough position for Vishy to be in, playing with black when Kramnik would be content for a draw.>
Really agree, lol.
|Oct-14-10|| ||Sneaky: Is this a Queen's Gambit Accepted by transposition, or would this be considered a Ragozin system?|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Robin01: And what opening have they gone into today?|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Sneaky: Chessgames just labeled it a Queen's Gambit Declined but I think their opening identifier is less than perfect. This looks just like any number of games that start 1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4.|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Sneaky: Even the Opening Explorer is confused: it says it's a QGA, a QGD, or a Ragozin, depending on which way the wind blows.|
|Oct-14-10|| ||ughaibu: It's a queens gambit Vienna variation, whether that's accepted or declined has never been a question I've considered. Considering it now. . . . . well. . . .|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Ulhumbrus: Instead of either 14 a3 or 15 Kh1, 14 Qe2 or 15 Qe2 connects the Rooks.|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Sneaky: After 13.O-O the database has four examples (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...) including Kramnik vs Lautier, 1998 (1-0).|
Looking at those games with (+3 -0 =1) you'd think White has a distinct advantage but I think it's a statistical fluke. This is pretty dry stuff. If there is to be a tussle it will come in the ending.
|Oct-14-10|| ||tpstar: Wow, Anand came prepared. Looks like unused Bonn prep.|
15. Kh1 is new to the database = Opening Explorer
|Oct-14-10|| ||whiteshark: What's the compensation for giving up the pair?|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Sneaky: Kh1 looks pretty aggressive to me.|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Strongest Force: Do Kram know what to do with an aggressive position?|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Ulhumbrus: <whiteshark: What's the compensation for giving up the pair?> Perhaps he hopes to establish a N on a strong square and so reduce White's advantage.|
One of the advantages which the bishop pair confers upon a player is that he enjoys then much greater liberty to advance his pawns on either wing without undue risk of losing the game, whereas it could be suicidal to do this when facing an opponent's bishop pair.
This suggests the following question: If Kramnik plays f5 now and threatens a King side pawn storm by g4 and g5, how is Anand going to answer the threat?
|Oct-14-10|| ||Gypsy: < whiteshark: What's the compensation for giving up the BB pair?> |
Not much. Black position is fairly solid and he can massage the Pe4. That is about it. In contrast, Black K-side is cramped and will be hard to defend. Opening of the center would be in White favor because of the 2B. All in all, Black seems to be destined for a long grim defense...
|Oct-14-10|| ||ketchuplover: I thought 18.fxe5 was better.|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Strongest Force: I say Kram does not have the balls to go for a pawn storm|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Honza Cervenka: <All in all, Black seems to be destined for a long grim defense...>|
He can be spared of it by well timed draw offer....:-o
|Oct-14-10|| ||Check It Out: Black may plan to re-route his LSB on the h1-a8 diagonal to apply pressure on the e4 pawn. Maybe put his other rook on c8. What to do with the QN? maybe d4.|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Fiberking: Hello all. Good to be back. I like Kramnik's position here, but Anand's 19...b6 seems a strong defence move. I do not see a king side pawn storm coming, for that would be as risky for white as it would be for black. All in all, a small plus for Kramnik, imho.|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Honza Cervenka: Just optically without sillicon support I would say that white has some edge here.|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Ulhumbrus: Here is one way for Black to lose after 20 g4 instead of 20 Nd2: 20 g4 Be8 21 g5 Nd7 22 g6 hg 23 fg fg 24 Bc4+ Kh8 25 Qg4 Nf6 26 Qh3+ Nh7 27 Rf3 Qg5 28 Rf8 mate|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Gypsy: <Honza Cervenka: <All in all, Black seems to be destined for a long grim defense...>|
He can be spared of it by well timed draw offer....:-o>
(Given the state of the tournament, it may work though. ;-))
|Oct-14-10|| ||Frankovich: Bishop on a8-h1 diagonal seems to be Anand's specialty with black the last few years.|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Ulhumbrus: If the pawn storm 20 g4 and 21 g5 leads to a win, which it may or may not do, Kramnik may have let a winning advantage slip by spending two tempi on the two knight moves 20 Nb3-d2 and 21 Nd2-f3.|
|Oct-14-10|| ||Check It Out: <Ulhumbrus> Yes, that knight's made quite the journey: g1-f3-d4-b3-d2-f3. Should have just stayed on f3 ;)|
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