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Magnus Carlsen vs Veselin Topalov
"e4=MC2" (game of the day Oct-01-12)
Nanjing Pearl Spring Tournament (2010)  ·  Spanish Game: Closed. Martinez Variation (C84)  ·  1-0
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Jan-03-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: Game Collection: RABID PAWNS

Carlsen vs Topalov, 2010 31 ... Nc4xe5? 32 d5xBe6! 1-0 rampaging d-pawn wins for Carlsen

Mar-07-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  talisman: thanks <kingcrusher>!
Jan-01-12  Penguincw: 18.Ng6 ouch.
Oct-01-12  vinidivici: the rest easy to follow.
32.dxe6 Nxd3
33.exf7+ Kf8
34.Bxh6+ Ke7
35.fxe8=Q Kxe8
36.Bxd3

White wins because his queen traded with a rook, a knight and a bishop

Oct-01-12
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  iqbalianpawn: I still can not truly understand black's 28th move Qa5.. And how is black knight immune...
Oct-01-12  vinidivici: well, thats why black lost, isnt it....
Oct-01-12  NyP: <I still can not truly understand black's 28th move Qa5.. And how is black knight immune...> Objectively Qa5 is not the best continuation, but otherwise it is difficult to stop e5-Rxf6-Qh7. This way black gets a pawn and rook for 2 minor pieces (bxc-Bxc4-Q~-Bxf1)
Oct-01-12
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  iqbalianpawn: <NyP> Well, thanks.. I had seen till here, but was wondering if there is something deeper... Anyways.. thanks.. And amazing thing is that white does not continue with straight away e5, delaying it by a move..
Oct-01-12
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  Eyal: Re the somewhat "mysterious" 28...Qa5 & 29.Kh2: after 28.b3 Black is already lost; retreating with the knight to b6, for example, allows White to win immediately with 29.e5 dxe5 30.Rxf6! Qxf6 (or 30...gxf6) 31.Qh7+ Kf8 32.Ba3+ (made possible by the black knight leaving c4) and mate. 28...Qa5 was not a bad practical idea - considering the options, Black is not so badly off after 29.bxc4 Bxc4 followed by Bxf1, and it also aims at playing Qe1+ in some lines where White's attack involves Rxf6 – for example, 29.e5 dxe5 30.Rxf6 gxf6 31.Bxh6 f5 32.Nxf5 isn't simply winning because of 32...Qe1+ 33.Kh2 e4!; same goes for 31.Nh5. That's why 29.Kh2! is a good prophylactic move, which leaves Black helpless.

[For other examples of such prophylaxis in the middle of an attack, see move 31 in both of Kasparov's most famous Ruy Lopez games - Kasparov vs Karpov, 1986 & Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990 ]

Oct-01-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <e4=MC2> GR8 PuN!
Oct-01-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Castleinthesky: As Yogi Berra said: "I came to a fork in the road and I took it."
Oct-01-12  rapidcitychess: So if Magnus Carlsen was a square, he would be energy multiplied by 4?
Oct-01-12
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  kevin86: After all the exchanges,white will be up a rook and two bishops for a queen...an easy win.
Oct-01-12  goodevans: <kevin86: After all the exchanges,white will be up a rook and two bishops for a queen...an easy win.>

In D Charochkina vs B Kovanova, 2011 white is up a rook and two bishops for almost the entire game, finally bringing home the point on move 115.

Nice finish. Worth a look IMO.

Oct-01-12
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  iqbalianpawn: <Eyal> Thanks man....
Oct-01-12
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  Once: I think there is a little more to it than the material imbalance of queen versus rook + 2 bishops. Here's the position at the end of the mass exchanges (32... Nxd3 33. exf7+ Kf8 34. Bxh6+ Ke7 35. fxe8=Q+ Kxe8 36. Bxd3)


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A queen can sometimes hold off several minor pieces because her mobility allows her to fork, skewer and pin. But in this position there are a couple of other factors to take into account. The white king is safe from checks on h2. The black knight is offside on h7 (and has no easy way into the game). White threatens Bxg6+. The black king has no pawn cover.

If it wasn't for those additional features, black might play on with a move like 36...Qc3 threatening both the b3 pawn and the Bd3.

Oct-01-12
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  Eyal: <Once: I think there is a little more to it than the material imbalance of queen versus rook + 2 bishops. Here's the position at the end of the mass exchanges (32... Nxd3 33. exf7+ Kf8 34. Bxh6+ Ke7 35. fxe8=Q+ Kxe8 36. Bxd3)


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[...] The black knight is offside on h7 (and has no easy way into the game).>

True - and in fact, the knight isn't just offside, it's simply lost; there's no way to save it after Bxg6 and/or Rf7, if necessary. So it actually becomes very quickly a rook and three minor pieces vs. a lone queen.

Jan-04-13  pablo333: The pawn to b5 thrust by black (on move number six) is, I believe, a serious strategic error. After white has played 6 d3, it is safe for black to respond with 6... d6, because after the usual follow-up (7 Bxc6 bxc6 8 d4) white's initiative is nullified by the fact that he has already played his pawn to d3 - thus losing a tempo. After 6... b5 black's position becomes vulnerable and under developed.
Nov-22-13  dastak2: i got 64 in GTM
Guess-the-Move: Carlsen vs Topalov, 2010
Nov-22-13  chesswarmup: Got 46 only :(
Nov-23-13
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  SamAtoms1980: 43....

Had I a vague idea about what was going on, I might have matched par.

Dec-20-13
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  Nightstalker1967: My middle game is weak and I know it so I wasn't surprised that while I was awarded 3 points a few time, 2 some and 1 some, I also had some minus 3s. This is my first effort. Does the minus 3 mean that you WILL lose from the position created or that you will lose a major piece or what. I may have gotten myself into a poor position but I didn't think any of the moves were outright terrible. Also sometimes I played the reverse order (or would have) and my first move in the situation was the second move in the actual game. Maybe I'll improve.... dastak, my sincere complements.
Dec-20-13
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  tamar: <Nightstalker1967> The minus 3 is a big error, but varies according to the position.

Here is the explanation on the Guess-the-Move Help Page

<SCORING

Each chess game in the Guess-the-Move list has been analyzed by a powerful chess engine called Toga. This helps us assign partial or full credit for guesses that are good moves. The data of the Opening Explorer is also consulted to help with scoring some of the opening moves.

Here's how the scoring system works:

3 points for guessing the move that the grandmaster played. Even if this move is not objectively the best move, you will get full credit for guessing it.

3 points for for picking a move that Toga determined is just as good, or better, than the move played.

3 points for picking an opening move with a long and successful history according to the Opening Explorer.

2 points for guessing a move that is almost as good as the text move.

2 points for guessing a move that is has a reasonably popularity and a successful history in the Opening Explorer.

1 point for a move that might not be as good as the text, but still playable.

0 points for a wrong guess that Toga does not consider to be among the top moves.

-1, -2, or -3 points - Penalties are assigned when you miss a critical move. The degree of the penalty is determined by Toga.>

Dec-20-13
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  offramp: You are not a real world champion unless you've annihilated Topalov properly.
Jul-12-14  sobinkerala: Y blacks 28 move...a5..?
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