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Nov-05-10
 | | Ulhumbrus: In comparison with sn immediate 25...Rd8, the sequence 25..Rf8 26 Rf1 Rd8 27 Rc1 gains a tempo for Black, as Black's Rook loses one tempo but White's Rook loses two tempi |
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Nov-05-10
 | | Robin01: <In comparison with sn immediate 25...Rd8, the sequence 25..Rf8 26 Rf1 Rd8 27 Rc1 gains a tempo for Black, as Black's Rook loses one tempo but White's Rook loses two tempi>I am sure Naka did not miss this. There must be a reason for his play of immediately putting a rook on d8. |
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Nov-05-10
 | | Strongest Force: Thx 4 the correction, sastre. The older guys walk with more sprite in their step |
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Nov-05-10
 | | Kinghunt: <Robin01: <In comparison with sn immediate 25...Rd8, the sequence 25..Rf8 26 Rf1 Rd8 27 Rc1 gains a tempo for Black, as Black's Rook loses one tempo but White's Rook loses two tempi>I am sure Naka did not miss this. There must be a reason for his play of immediately putting a rook on d8.> White doesn't have to follow that line. White could actually meet 25...Rf8 with 26. f3!, since there's no dark squared bishop to exploit the weakness that creates. |
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Nov-05-10
 | | plang: I don't like giving up the bishop. |
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Nov-05-10
| | Ulhumbrus: <Robin01: <In comparison with sn immediate 25...Rd8, the sequence 25..Rf8 26 Rf1 Rd8 27 Rc1 gains a tempo for Black, as Black's Rook loses one tempo but White's Rook loses two tempi>I am sure Naka did not miss this. There must be a reason for his play of immediately putting a rook on d8.> Such as his finding an alternative for White in the sequence. After 25...Rf8 26 Rf1 Rd8 one alternative to 27 Rc1 is 27 Re3. |
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Nov-05-10
| | Ulhumbrus: <plang: I don't like giving up the bishop.> You may be right. It may let Black's advantage slip. |
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Nov-05-10
| | Ulhumbrus: On 25...Rf8 26 f3 disturbs the King side pawns without necessity and the f3 pawn presents a target for the attacks ...Bb7, ...e4 and ...g4 |
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Nov-05-10
 | | woodthrush: playing with fire, letting R on 7th |
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Nov-05-10
| | Ulhumbrus: My present forecast is a draw. Nakamura may have let his advantage slip by exchanging his bishop. |
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Nov-05-10
| | woodthrush: still alot of horsepower on the board, open lines, have to be careful, things can turn on a dime |
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Nov-05-10
| | plang: Either Black didn't have as much as I thought he did or he liquidated too quickly - either way I don't think White gets enough in this line. |
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Nov-05-10
| | woodthrush: don't see anything better than 34. Rc2 |
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Nov-05-10
 | | SCUBA diver: How about 34. R-e4. |
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Nov-05-10
| | woodthrush: holy smokes, f4! one pawn remains in front of king |
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Nov-05-10
| | woodthrush: wow, Mame has courage and is aggresive, tables appear turned |
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Nov-05-10
 | | ketchuplover: Thanks for the game cg. Any chance on another game(s) |
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| Nov-05-10 | | turbo231: I think it's a draw |
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Nov-05-10
 | | tpstar: Great fighting draw, and a useful example of this line out to a major piece endgame. Interesting that Nakamura had plenty of time to spare. |
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| Nov-05-10 | | turbo231: I hate it when Naka gets reckless with his king's pawns he didn't do that in this game. |
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Nov-05-10
 | | Administrator: Thanks to everyone for watching and commenting on the game today. The second round of the tournament is tomorrow at 8:AM USA/Eastern time. |
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| Nov-05-10 | | turbo231: With this draw Naka's ratings will go up. |
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| Nov-05-10 | | AuN1: very clean, accurate game by both sides. |
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Nov-05-10
 | | Eyal: Up to <20.e4> they followed the final game of the recent WC match (where Topalov played 20.Nd2 - Topalov vs Anand, 2010). This game seems to support the impression that the line leads to equality - Black's activity is enough to compensate for the weak pawn structure, but not more than that - so long as both sides play reasonably rather than go crazy, as Topalov did in that fateful game. |
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Nov-06-10
| | Ulhumbrus: The chessbase website says <Mamedyarov and Nakamura discussed the 12th and final game of the World Championship between Topalov and Anand, however correct play from both led to an uneventful draw after 43 moves. >
How can White's play be correct when Black gets the better game from the opening? Even assuming that White is able to defend successfully, if he does not go too far trying to win as Topalov did, such a result from the opening cannot satisfy White. This is the opposite of White wants from the opening. White's aim in the opening is to play for an advantage, not disadvantage or equality. The culprit is the move 17 dxc5? which in the end concedes more to Black than it gains. One of Anand's seconds may have suggested 17 Bc6 and another alternative is 17 Bd3 |
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