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| Jan-17-11 | | Chesschatology: "Eyal: <parmetd: Eyal elephant in russian is just Bishop.>
I know, and that's exactly why I said that I think <polarmis>'s original translation wasn't precise and that it should be "bishop" instead of "pieces"." Yes indeed, as I understand it this idiom slyly alludes to the famously plump pontiffs of the Russian Orthodox Church during the 16C. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | parmetd: hms judging by shirov's time... if he knew it was a tablebase draw it would have been drawn quite some time ago. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | e4ia: This was the game "no one was interested in"; per an early post! |
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Jan-17-11
 | | hms123: <parmetd: hms judging by shirov's time... if he knew it was a tablebase draw it would have been drawn quite some time ago.> He has to figure out how to get there first. :-) |
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Jan-17-11
 | | Eyal: 68.Kd2! so that after 68...Rb2+ (68...Bf3? 69.Rf5+ & Rxf3) 69.Kc3 Black wouldn't have Bc4. The TB draw isn't automatic, btw - it depends on how good the respective rook and king positions are. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | e4ia: Let's discuss TB draws when they are 6 pieces...and we know the posit @ 6! |
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Jan-17-11
 | | hms123: <EYAL> <The TB draw isn't automatic, btw - it depends on how good the respective rook and king positions are.> Of course, but the BK is in the right vicinity at the moment. Even so, holding the draw might not be so easy. One slip and it could be over. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | hms123: <e4ia: Let's discuss TB draws when they are 6 pieces...and we know the posit @ 6!> Fair enough, but it is relevant to the discussion if Shirov knows that he can make the transition to a drawn ending. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | technical draw: I wonder, if I had Naka's position against a GM would I be able to win? Probably not but I may be able to hold a draw. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | Marmot PFL: Well this looks hopeless for black now. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | lost in space: Back again and White is up 2 pawn (instead of 1 when arriving first). Seems, he did a good job in the meantime, didn't he? |
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Jan-17-11
 | | parmetd: yet again doesn't look drawn but I guess thats why I'm not a GM. This looks completely winning to me. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | lost in space: Black is completely lost now. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | Eyal: For example, in the position after 81.Ke3 if you take off the minor pieces it's winning for White:-) |
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Jan-17-11
 | | moronovich: Naka is completely winning and Shirov will soon resign. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | hms123: <EYAL> Yes, but trade the bishop for White's pawns and it's drawn. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | woodthrush: Lot's of ways to loose a piece here! |
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| Jan-17-11 | | BobCrisp: Naka is completely winning.....and his head will soon start shaking. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | parmetd: yea but name one way to exchange the bishop for both pawns... cause I see none. You're just talking theoretical what one would desire.... well I think he'd desire more bare kings but he can't get to that position either. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | tamar: 88 Kg3 White King safely in cabin of pawn bulldozer. Full speed ahead. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | e4ia: no problem < hms123>; re your earlier to me so h5 wins right?! |
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Jan-17-11
 | | parmetd: Shirov couldn't find a way either to get to your simple self proclaimed draw as he resigned. Nakamura now leads Corus. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | lost in space: Shirov resigned. Now it is done and dusted. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | Ulhumbrus: Shirov does not wait for Nakamura to show how he will force his pawns through but resigns at this point. Perhaps he has been waiting for the move h5. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | tpstar: <chessgames.com> Thanks for the live broadcast. =) Nakamura's legendary endgame prowess comes through again. |
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