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Magnus Carlsen vs Anish Giri
"Anish Paradise" (game of the day Nov-20-12)
Tata Steel (2011)  ·  Neo-Grünfeld Defense: Exchange Variation (D71)  ·  0-1
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Nov-20-12  JonathanJ: weird al!
Nov-20-12  Mendrys: I agree with <njchess> in that a lot more has been read into this game than deserves merit. There were musings at the time that this may be Giri's immortal. Now, in retrospect, we see it more clearly for what it is: a tactical blunder in an aggressively played game by both sides that loses a piece. Game over. Personally, I think Nakamura vs A Giri, 2012 is a better game by Giri but this too is "merely" a well payed and well deserved victory for Giry
Nov-20-12  bamaexpert: As for blocking the the QB with Qd2, what about the famous Gligoric-Fischer game (in 60 Memorable Games) where Fischer plays 15...Qd7. I can remember playing thru this game many times back in the early 70's, trying to figure out why someone would block in their QB like that...a move I would have NEVER considered, and one the late Gligoric probably didn't see :) Gligoric vs Fischer, 1961
Nov-21-12  Everett: Well, Korchnoi has shown the value of Qd2, blocking his DSB in the right circumstances. It was Bronstein who helped Korchnoi prepare this opening system vs Karpov, and that work no doubt helped Korchnoi find the counterintuitive move; a combination of OTB and prep resulting in devastating play.

Korchnoi vs Karpov, 1974

May-27-14  Conrad93: <<njchess> If this game had been played with reversed colours or White been a 'mere' 25-2600 player, no-one would even have noticed. The weaker player plays a second-best move, the stronger remorselessly punishes said move, quick 0-1 for a top GM.

Yawn.>

Have yet to see a 2500-2600+ game of this level.

Not that common.

May-30-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <conrad> You would not understand a GM game if it hit you upside the head.
May-31-14  Conrad93: And you would?
Last time I checked you're nowhere near the GM level.
Jun-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <conrad93: And you would?>

Not at the level of top players, but a whole lot better than you.

<Last time I checked you're nowhere near the GM level.>

Quite true, nor have I ever claimed to be.

Lock yourself in your room with computer and a book or three as company, plus your inflatable doll for the occasional diversion after getting your pretensions to intellect and knowledge crushed by people who actually know something. Plenty of them here at CG.

Jun-05-14  Conrad93: <<conrad93: And you would?>

Not at the level of top players, but a whole lot better than you.

<Last time I checked you're nowhere near the GM level.>

Quite true, nor have I ever claimed to be.

Lock yourself in your room with computer and a book or three as company, plus your inflatable doll for the occasional diversion after getting your pretensions to intellect and knowledge crushed by people who actually know something. Plenty of them here at CG.>

Obviously that person isn't that you.

Jun-05-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Benzol: <Conrad93> You might find that you can actually learn something from <perfidious>. He is a very strong player in his own right. You claim you're here to learn and that's great but the way you present your ideas more than likely to get peoples backs up. You said you found Geller's roll in the Argentinian tragedy in 1955 an eye opener. That was something that people like <perfidious> and myself already knew. You discovered that Lasker played very well against the hypermoderns in a tournament in 1923 that you previously knew nothing about. The people here are willing to help you but not if you carry on with the attitude you keep showing.

My membership comes up for renewal very shortly but I wonder if it's worth me putting the effort in with the attitude I see from some people. Hmmm...

Jun-06-14  Conrad93: Do you mean the New York tournament of 1924?
Jun-06-14  Conrad93: I don't remember ever seeing that tournament.

Benzol must be high.

Jun-06-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Benzol: No <Conrad> I mean Maehrisch - Ostrau (1923) which YOU thought was a game and later found out was a tournament. And if you memory of it is that feeble take the time to refresh it. You might just find it an enlightening experience!
Jun-06-14  Conrad93: My comments are nowhere on that page.
Jun-06-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Benzol: <Conrad> Cast your mind back to some comments you made on the Lasker page. It actually started on page 64 of this thread but use Emanuel Lasker as a reference point. And your comments and mine on page 43 of the Yifan Hou thread might also jog your memory.
Jun-06-14  Conrad93: I never thought it was a game, and none of my comments verify what you have claimed.
Jun-06-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Benzol: <Conrad93: Jim, I was referring to the game posted, not the tournament.> Then what were you referring to?
Jun-07-14
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  Benzol: <Conrad93> There is now an Id Monster on your trail. Beware!
Jun-07-14  Conrad93: IF I said that, why do you assume I mean the tournament?

I was obviously referring to a game.

Jun-07-14  N0B0DY: Of course, <N0B0DY> could have possibly predicted that flimsy argument.
Jun-07-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Benzol: <Conrad> You DID say that and the post you referred to was about the Maehrisch - Ostrau (1923) tournament. QED.

:)

Jun-07-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gregor Samsa Mendel: <Conrad93: I will never accept that I am wrong. It's not in my nature.>

Alekhine vs Euwe, 1935

Jun-07-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <GSM> Guess we can't say we weren't warned......not sure what to do in the presence of his staggering stupidity.
Jun-07-14
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  Benzol: <Conrad> and <AJ> having a "discussion" could be very entertaining.
Jun-07-14
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  perfidious: One could merely stand in awe as that pair duked it out in the fleshpots of Pensuckola.
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