chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing


register now - it's free!
Wang Hao vs Alexander Grischuk
"Hao You Like Me Now?" (game of the day Aug-21-12)
Tata Steel (2011)  ·  King's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Panno Variation (E63)  ·  1-0
To move:
Last move:

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 13 times; par: 49 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 17 more Wang Hao/Grischuk games
sac: 33.Be5+ PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You should register a free account to activate some of Chessgames.com's coolest and most powerful features.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with the default chess viewer, please see the Pgn4web Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Jan-20-11  dramas79: Actually 38. Rh2+ is mate! (after 37 Qh1+ and 37...Kf7
Jan-20-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: <drams79>: I get it. You meant 37. Qh8+. Yes, that wins.

All right. then how about 36...Nh5 ? After 37. gxh5 Qd5 38. Qxd5 (38. Qb8+ Bf8) cxd5 39. hxd6 Bxg5, black has drawing chances.

Jan-20-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  haydn20: After 40. Rh2 then Re2, can't W knock off the certer pawns with an easy win?
Jan-20-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sastre: <al wazir: how about 36...Nh5 ? After 37. gxh5 Qd5 38. Qxd5 (38. Qb8+ Bf8) cxd5 39. hxd6 Bxg5, black has drawing chances> 40.Rh7 Bf6 41.Ra7 Bxd4 42.Rxa5 Kg7 43.Ra6 Kxg6 44.Rxe6+ Kf5 45.Rc6 Be3 46.a5 .
Jan-20-11  Ulhumbrus: In return for the exchange sacrifice Grischuk gains a Knight in the centre supported by its own pawn and not subject to attack from a White pawn, a type of Knight which according to Tarrasch "is scarcely weaker than a Rook".

Unfortunately for Black, other things are not equal in the position. White has more space and Black's h pawn, e pawn and c pawn are all backward. Perhaps if other things were equal any White advantage would be minimal. But they aren't.

Jan-20-11  ozmikey: <HeMateMe> It's an interesting idea, setting up a knight permanently on d5, leaving Black with good bishop vs. bad bishop, gaining control of the light squares in the centre and leaving White with a slightly unwieldy pawn structure. But I still think the simple 16...Qf7 would have been better (17. Bg4 Nxd5 18. Qe2 e5!).
Jan-20-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  wordfunph: from Chessbase..

The daily 500-euro “Piet Zwart Prize” for the best game of the day went to Wang Hao. GM Ivan Sokolov: "No ifs or buts about it – his handling of the white side of the King’s Indian with 3.g3 was exemplary.

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...

Jan-20-11  kudubux: This may be a case of too much poker on the part of Grischuk. He sacrificed the exchanged to BLUFF Hao and then folded when Hao went all in. :)
Jan-20-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  sevenseaman: 35. Resign. ..Nf4+ is too cosmetic an attempt at a distraction. When a tiger has its prey by the throat, it cannot hear a lullaby!
Jan-20-11  dramas79: <<drams79>: I get it. You meant 37. Qh8+.> You are right. My bad. Abt.<nh5> i think <Sastre> answered it.
Jan-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: <Sastre>: You're right. I guess it's hopeless. Thanks.
Feb-07-11  ReikiMaster: 16...Qf7 looks equal. The natural square for black Bishop was g7 but after 30.Bf4 that wasn't possible.
Aug-21-12  LoveThatJoker: Great GOTD!

This game has "featured in a Move-by-Move book" written all over it!

LTJ

Aug-21-12  rilkefan: <<ReikiMaster>: 16...Qf7 looks equal.>

Stockfish agrees: 17.Bg4 Nxd5 18.Qe2 e5 19.dxe5 dxe5 20.f4 c6 21.fxe5 Qe7 22.Rf6 etc is 0.00, depth of 30 (0.7 Gnodes). 20...Rbe8 21.fxe5 Qe7 22.Rxf8 is a bit more of a human line and still 0.00.

It thinks 13.exf5 Rxf5 14.h3 was stronger: 0.4 because (so it appears) of control of e4 and the white squares. Perhaps for this reason it prefers 12...c6, which it thinks is equal or just a tad better for white after normal moves.

Aug-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  waustad: Yesterday in the broadcast of the little league WS, a player from Taipei named Hou was on second base. Before the color commentator (Terry Francona) could say a word the announcer said, "Don't start!"
Aug-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: The king steps aside and mate will come quickly...or worse.
Aug-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Once: Very imaginative play by Grischuk - he sacrifices the exchange in order to give himself an unassailable knight outpost on d5.

Unfortunately, knight outposts are only useful if the knight can reach somewhere interesting from them. And in this case it turned out that the Nd5 was pretty impotent. It was in range of precisely diddly other than a spite check on f4.

So white punishes him by doubling rooks on the half open f file left weakened by his ambitious exchange sac. Then exchange one set of rooks so that the open h and f files have to favour white with the only remaining rook.

33. Be5+ was a nice touch to sac-tivate the bad bishop and give the white queen an entry square.

A great game? I wouldn't go quite that far. Wang played very well, but the fate of the game was decided by an unwise and speculative exchange sac by Grischuk.

Aug-21-12  Mate Hunter: What about 15...Nc2? 16. Qxc2 leads to 16...Rxf3, while 16. Rc1 leads to 16...Nxd4.
Aug-21-12  moi: What would be wrong with 18 Qxf7 pls? That would leave white a quality ahead.
Aug-21-12  LoveThatJoker: <Mate Hunter> In regards to 15...Nc2, Stockfish gives the following line

15...Nc2 16. Qxc2 Rxf3 17. Qe4 Rf7 (17...Rf6 18. g5 Rf5 19. f4 ) 18. Rac1 Qd7 19. Qe6 Qc8 20. Rfe1 c5 21. dxc6 bxc6 22. Qxc8+ Rxc8 23. Re2 (+0.68/22)

<moi> According to Stockfish, 18. Qxf7+ is stronger than the game continuation.

It offers this line as advantageous for White:

18. Qxf7+ Kxf7 19. Kg2 h6 20. gxh6 Bxh6 21. Rh1 Bg7 22. Rh7 Rf8 23. Rah1 Kg8 24. f4 Nxd5 25. Kf3 e6 26. R7h2 Kf7 27. Re1 Re8 28. Ke4 Ke7 29. Reh1 Rf8 30. Bc1 Kd7 31. Bd2 c6 (+1.09/24)

LTJ

Aug-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  ajile: This variation seems very awkward for Black. Look at the knight hung out to dry on b4. Why not the simple 16.a3.

But maybe I'm missing something because I don't have my board or chess program going.

Not only is the Nb4 ridiculous but Black gave himself a backward c pawn. But Black does have some minor compensation due to the double doubled White pawns.

Aug-21-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  kellmano: 'Hao do you like them apples?'

One of my favourite phrases, which i use quite a lot. Might try to find a game where Hao beats someone with an opening named after them, or something like that, then submit it as a pun.

Aug-21-12  tivrfoa: 33. ? white to play and win. Cool.
Aug-21-12  gabrielxv: dont understand the quality sacrifice Rxf3...
Aug-22-12  LoveThatJoker: <gabrielxv: dont understand the quality sacrifice Rxf3...>

Neither does Stockfish. According to it, 16...Qf7 would have given Black favourable equality.

16...Rxf3 can therefore be considered dubious at the very least.

LTJ

< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other users.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.


NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections [what is this?]
shakman's favorite games
by shakman
Anti-KID Collection Alpha [White]
by chess.master
Its just a matter of time KIDdie!!!
from Manuel G. Vergara's favorite games by Manuel G. Vergara
Round 5, Group A (5 stars)
from NOW CLOSED by Penguincw
Wang Hao' s Best Games
by RKR25
August 21: Hao You Like Me Now?
from Game of the Day 2012 by Phony Benoni
DA Kid
by parmetd
KID or QID
by pink gorilla
Interesting Games
by Easy Point


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | advertising | contact us
Copyright 2001-2014, Chessgames Services LLC
Web design & database development by 20/20 Technologies