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Jan-30-11
 | | Ulhumbrus: On 41 Nxe7+ Qxe7 42 Qxe7 Bxe7 43 Rc6 White's bishop aomes to c4 and the a6 pawn falls, although Black may be able to win the a5 pawn in return. It may be a draw, if White's remaining a pawn does not become a threat. |
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Jan-30-11
| | Ulhumbrus: <FSR> I saw your message after sending mine. |
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Jan-30-11
 | | Travis Bickle: Don't make a joke you gearheads brains might explode. |
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Jan-30-11
| | Ulhumbrus: One question is whether after 41 Nxe7+ Qxe7 42 Qxe7 Bxe7 43 Rc6 Bb4 44 Bc4 Bxa5 45 Bxa6 (keeping Rooks on the board) White's other a pawn can become a threat. |
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| Jan-30-11 | | turbo231: Why no live cameras for this tourney? They had them in London, U.S. championship, all the other tourneys. What's the problem? |
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Jan-30-11
| | Travis Bickle: The Wizard told me your all a bunch of Screwheads... |
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Jan-30-11
| | Ulhumbrus: On 41...Qxc5 42 Rxc5 White's Knight keeps Black's Rook - a much more valuable piece - tied to the defence of the a pawn. This suggests avoiding this by 41...Qd7 or 41..Qb7 |
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Jan-30-11
 | | Marmot PFL: Aronian still wants a higher place, but this is a draw. |
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Jan-30-11
| | Ulhumbrus: The move 38..Ra8 may be a serious mistake which passes the advantage to White, as it allows White to fix Black's a pawn on a white square by 39 a5! Instead of 38...Ra8, 38..a5 may retain some advantage for Black. |
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Jan-30-11
| | Marmot PFL: maybe some chances with B vs N |
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Jan-30-11
| | Ulhumbrus: Now Smeets has to keep White's passed a pawn back - if he can. |
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Jan-30-11
 | | DavidatHunter: I don't think the a-pawn is going anywhere, Black has Ra7, Nd5 and then Kf8-e7-d6. The a-pawn can't advance beyond a4 and then the 4 vs. 3 majority on the K-side favors Black, so unless Smeets crumbles in time pressure, this is a draw. |
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Jan-30-11
 | | An Englishman: Good Morning: Typical Aronian--always finds chances even in seemingly hopelessly drawn positions. Unbalanced pawn structure, B vs. N, the worst passed pawn for a Knight to stop, he just might pull out another endgame gem. Looking at 49...Rb2; 50.a4,Ra2; 51.Rc8+ and 49...Kf8; 50.a4,Ke7; 51.a5 (Kf1!?),Kd7; 52.a6(Kf1!?),Ra7. |
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Jan-30-11
| | Ulhumbrus: The bishop can support the advance of White's passed pawn to white squares while the Rook can support its advance to Black squares. This suggests that the Black Rook cannot stop the advance by itself. In some way, Black's other men have to make themselves count. |
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Jan-30-11
| | DavidatHunter: Rb2 seems ok to hold the draw as well; needs to play Ra2 and I don't see how the a-pawn advances since the Rook needs to guard the Bishop and the Bishop needs to guard the pawn. Black gets Nd5 in to help out. Hold on Smeets (for Naka's sake)! |
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Jan-30-11
| | Ulhumbrus: Suppose that Black's N on f6, King , e pawn and h pawn do nothing. Then with Black's Rook on a2 one possible winning plan is Rc5, a5, Bd3, a6, Rc7, a7, Bd3-b5-c6 and a7-a8. Black is unlikely to wait for all this. It remains to be seen what he does with his Knight, his King or his pawns. |
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Jan-30-11
| | Marmot PFL: Nb6 forces the trade. Probably they would just draw at this point if white didn't need the point. |
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Jan-30-11
| | Marmot PFL: Site says draw agreed 52. Ke1 Nb6 53. Rb4 Rxc2 54. Rxb6 Ra2 55. Ra6 g5 56. a5 Kg7 57. h3 Kf6 58. Ra7 h5 59. a6 h4 60. gxh4 gxh4 61. Kf1 Ke5 |
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Jan-30-11
| | An Englishman: Good Morning: Smeets has defended well. With the Rook on a2 behind the passed pawn and cutting off the White King, he has found the best drawing defense. The only way White can win is terribly risky at best: sacrifice the King Side to advance the a-pawn, force Black to sacrifice the Rook to stop the promotion, and then hope the pieces can get back to the other side in time to stop the pawn roller. *Very* risky. |
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Jan-30-11
| | Ulhumbrus: <Marmot PFL: Site says draw agreed 52. Ke1 Nb6 53. Rb4 Rxc2 54. Rxb6 Ra2 55. Ra6 g5 56. a5 Kg7 57. h3 Kf6 58. Ra7 h5 59. a6 h4 60. gxh4 gxh4 61. Kf1 Ke5> If that is the case it suggests that both players consider the final position to be a technical draw. |
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Jan-30-11
| | Marmot PFL: <*Very* risky> Much too risky I agree, with white's king still on the back row. |
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Jan-30-11
| | Ulhumbrus: If the fork 52..Nb6 leads to a drawn Rook and pawn ending, this suggests that instead of 52 Ke1, 52 Rc5 (avoiding the fork) may keep some winning chances alive. |
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Jan-30-11
| | Marmot PFL: So will they raise the US flag now and play Star Spangled Banner? |
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Jan-30-11
 | | lost in space: <<Marmot PFL>: So will they raise the US flag now and play Star Spangled Banner?> Hendrix Version of Star Spangled Banner would be vey much appreciated |
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Jan-30-11
| | lleznram: did somebody call me. |
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