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|May-12-11|| ||Strongest Force: Is this still best of 4 games?|
|May-12-11|| ||Domdaniel: b5 is an idea for White, with a possible Ra8 to follow|
|May-12-11|| ||moronovich: On the livefed Kamsky seems to be in a fine shape IMHeyes.|
|May-12-11|| ||Ulhumbrus: The move 35 b5 relinquishes control of the square c5, but if Black's R on d5 is tied to the defence of the d6 pawn, it will not matter if the square c5 is conceded to it.|
|May-12-11|| ||moronovich: But they just agreed on a draw ―-―.
So much for an epic battle :)
|May-12-11|| ||chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for stopping by today. The action continues tomorrow morning at 7:00am when we'll switch over to the Kramnik-Grischuk match. Hope to see you then!|
|May-12-11|| ||Knight13: It was an epic battle indeed, however small.|
|May-12-11|| ||tamar: The nightlife in Kazan must be too tempting.|
|May-12-11|| ||Domdaniel: Thassit, innit.|
|May-12-11|| ||tpstar: A fighting draw. =)
Kamsky made much more out of this than I would have thought ten moves ago. Yet there is some risk trying to win here, as Black has an outside passed Pawn along with B > N for the ending.
|May-12-11|| ||Domdaniel: <knight13> Heh. Yep, those micro-epics are sometimes more epic than, um, the other kind.|
|May-12-11|| ||kudubux: The question for tomorrow is will Kamsky play the Gruenfeld again, this time against a practitioner of the White side?|
|May-12-11|| ||moronovich: Never underestimate the small epics.|
|May-12-11|| ||kudubux: Kudos to chessgames.com again for featuring this game! If it had been the other semifinal match, I wouldn't get to sleep late. :)|
|May-12-11|| ||ARubinstein: <tamar: The nightlife in Kazan must be too tempting.>|
|May-12-11|| ||drnooo: Ahh at least we have a pair of chessplayers, unlike the other two.
And I dont want to hear how tough and tiring their ordeal has been and they needed a two day rest.
It must be nice to have no shame.|
|May-12-11|| ||MaxxLange: Kamsky breaking out his 6 Be3 Najdorf prep only after Topalov is out of the picture, I notice!|
Probably it was a smart idea to prepare something like the 6 a4 line against Topalov, who must be loaded up with incredibly dangerous novelties in the main lines.
|May-12-11|| ||bronkenstein: Just a funny episode from chessBomb , during the live broadcast :|
After Kamskyīs 35. b5 , people started screaming for Gelfandīs 35 . ... a5 !! followed by simple Kd8+Kc7 , and white rook is trapped . It looked as itīs all over , we were thinking that Gata blundered that simple trick in the time trouble . Farewell to the WC ...
To our surprise , Gelfand īblunderedī aswell and played 35. ... Rc7 . OK , we were expecting such mistakes from human beings , but Stockfish īblunderedī with them , not even mentioning our brilliant tactical idea in any of itīs first 4 lines ?!?!
In fact , 35. ...a5? was blunder , simple line ilustrating the main idea could be 36. Rxa5! Kd8 37.Ra7! Kc7 38.Rc6+ Kb8 (and what now, both rooks are hanging ? )39. b6!! (touche ! , and white got away with murder :) .
And gata had only 1 min 32 sec (on the next move when the draw was agreed , according to chessbomb) ! He saw it all and who knows what else , an excellent trap ! His bad luck was , Boris had almost an hour left at that moment ...
|May-12-11|| ||bronkenstein: Hmm on second thought in the last variation , instead of 38. Rc6 + , simple 38. Ra6 is the move , because in line 38. Rc6+ Kb8 39. b6 , black eats 39. ...bxc 40. Rxe7 c5 and the knight is pinned ... white can eat all the pawns on 7th rank afterwards , but no need for that , since he is simply a pawn up after 38. Ra6 .|
|May-13-11|| ||Hesam7: Kamsky's poor preparation really shows. The first 19 moves were already played in Efimenko vs E Najer, 2008, which explains why Gelfand was left with 56 minutes on his clock when draw was agreed on move 36.|
|May-13-11|| ||Peligroso Patzer: Good correction, <bronkenstein>, but I have one further refinement to offer. |
If Gelfand had played <35. ... a5?>, then after the further <36. Rxa5! Kd8 37. Ra7! Kc7 38. Rc6+ Kb8>, resulting in this position:
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... it would have been a counterblunder for White to continue with <39. b6?> because the d4-Knight eventually falls in accordance with the analysis in your second post. White could (as you noted) still save both rooks in this hypothetical line by playing <38. Rba6> (instead of 38. Rc6+) , but still better would probably be first to play <38. Rc6+ Kb8> and only then <39. Rca6> (taking advantage of the pin along the 7th rank against Black's undefended rook) which keeps White's material and positional advantages, which are probably sufficient for a win in this line.
|May-13-11|| ||Albertan: With the help of Deep Rybka 4x64 on my quad core computer,Chessbase 11, and Chessbase Megadatabase 2011 I have analyzed this game and posted this analysis to my blog. I had Deep Rybka 4x64 analyze this position for two hours in analysis mode. I hope you drop by my blog and play through this analysis. A direct link to the analysis is: |
|May-13-11|| ||bronkenstein: Ty Peligroso & Albertan .
It looks like Gelfand was right @ the press conference stating that it was pretty much safe draw all the way , requiring only slight accuracy (and his clock, almost an hour left, confirmed that he , indeed , had not much trouble in the position ).
To me, it looked as Kamsky is pressing for the win for good part of the game , but Gelfandīs calm judgement was superior to mine obviously :)
|May-14-11|| ||Albertan: Your welcome bronkenstein! :)Yes it was interesting to hear Gelfand's comments although for mere mortals such as myself it would take more than "slight" accuracy to draw the position! LOL I am surprised that Kamsky has chose to use the Grunfeld Defense.He certainly hadn't had much luck with this opening,especially in his Elista match with Karpov,where he lost early in the match with this opening and discarded it for other defenses.|
|Aug-03-11|| ||cludi: My video annotation of this game:
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