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Alexander Grischuk vs Boris Gelfand
World Championship Candidates Final (2011)  ·  Queen's Gambit Declined: Harrwitz Attack (D37)  ·  1/2-1/2
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May-18-11
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  OneArmedScissor: first
May-19-11
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  lost in space: I was thinking long what to add to the "first" comment. I was asking myself if it is related to the wish of the players to be the "first", the one and only challenger of Anand - or if they really are trying hard to win their first game.

At the final end I came to the conclusion that the post "first" was much deeper you might think. So I Second this first post.

May-19-11
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  wordfunph: goodluck to Sasha and Gelfy, may the best GM win..
May-19-11
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  chancho: I think Gelfand will try to score on the classical games to avoid facing Grishuk on the rapids or blitz.
May-19-11  theagenbiteofinwit: I think the clear winner here is Vishy Anand. Grischuk doesn't play classical chess and Gelfand's repertoire is as anorexic as anybody's in the top 10.
May-19-11  Travis Bickle: Gelfand 'The Old Man & The Sea', (er Chessboard), is wearing down and Grischuk scores a point with Black.
May-19-11
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  alexmagnus: < I think Gelfand will try to score on the classical games to avoid facing Grishuk on the rapids or blitz.>

In the recent world blitz championship Gelfand came ahead of Grischuk. So I wouldn't so clearly favorize Grischuk in case it comes to tiebreaks.

May-19-11
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  kellmano: Will be very interesting to see the tactics employed. My guess, Gris will not feel as much of the underdog in the final as he did in the first two matches and will play proper chess in the classical games.

Could just be wishful thinking of course.

May-19-11  polarmis: It's Grischuk White, Gelfand Black, today according to the Russian Chess Federation website.
May-19-11
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  Check It Out: I wouldn't underestimate the power of Gelfand.
May-19-11
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  kellmano: <polarmis> if that is so, then we will know Grischuk's tactics in about two hours.
May-19-11
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  kellmano: And the official site seems to suggest it is so.
May-19-11
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  ketchuplover: buenos dias :)
May-19-11
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  swr: Fixed
May-19-11  rgr459: So short draw today? Why bother showing up?
May-19-11
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  hedgeh0g: Gelfand's been playing some of the most fighting chess of any of the candidates and his Najdorf is a force to be reckoned with. Grischuk has been so solid and resourceful, however, that it's going to take a lot for Gelfand to crack him. Considering Grischuk's relatively easy run through Kramnik compared to Gelfand's marathon against Kamsky, I think Grischuk is also the better rested and will play more aggressively to take advantage of this. If the match enters rapids, Grischuk will surely be the clear favourite. If the match goes to blitz, well...they might as well hand the match to him.
May-19-11
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  BLarsen1967: Nine moves and a Najdorf ?
May-19-11
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  hoodrobin: cautious...
May-19-11
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  hoodrobin: Progress
May-19-11
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  hedgeh0g: Grischuk's been practicing on ICC for weeks for this match, honing his blitz/rapid skillz.
May-19-11  Rawprawn: <So short draw today? Why bother showing up?> This is the speed chess World Champs. They play 4/6 classical draws as warm-up. ;)

Just like I believe they should take the deciding penalties before a big football game, not after, I wonder if it would make a difference to the play if they already knew who would win if it came to a tie-break?

May-19-11
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  Domdaniel: Their photos neatly depict a match between the two dominant tropes in contemporary chess - the intellectual versus the image. This has replaced older, purely chessical, notions such as positional-vs-tactical. Now, Gelfand - bespectacled, concentrated, furrowed brow focused on a board of traditional wooden pieces - is the archetype of the intellectual, the thinker, the chessmaster. While Grischuk - the moody male model, with overtones of goth/vampire - is pure image. But he's only here as a substitute for Carlsen, the real representative for maestro as model.

So, while image tends to overcome intellectual substance these days, maybe Gelfand has a chance.

May-19-11
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  Stonehenge: CG has one game with 13.Nb5:

P H Nielsen vs Beliavsky, 2004

May-19-11
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  hoodrobin: <Domdaniel> Carlsen as a Ghost?
May-19-11
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  Domdaniel: Still following Nielsen-Beliavsky 2004 with 13.Nb5, btw.
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