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| May-25-11 | | polarmis: Here's my final version of Sergey Shipov's commentary on the game! http://www.chessintranslation.com/2... |
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May-25-11
 | | Stonehenge: <polarmis> Thanks, great stuff! |
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May-25-11
 | | Marmot PFL: It seems from Shipov's notes that the risky looking Ra5-h5 was OK, and that black was in the game until the dubious Bxh4?. |
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May-25-11
 | | patzer2: Anand has a clear edge over Gelfand in their previous encounters with 16 wins, 7 losses and 43 draws according to http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches.... In serious contests, omitting blitz and rapid games, Anand has won 7 games since 1993, while Gelfand has no wins. However their last serious encounter appears to be in Anand vs Gelfand, 2006 and with Gelfand's recent display of ability to keep it close and wait for a mistake, he could prove to be a dangerous opponent for Anand in a long classical match. In any event, it should make for some quality chess games. |
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| May-25-11 | | TheChessGuy: מזל טוב, בוריס אברמובי&-
#1509; |
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| May-25-11 | | TheSlid: <kingscrusher: Finally an exciting game I can video annotate! Wooo Hooo!> Look forward to this, mate, though it could be weekend before I can study your efforts. Love the stuff! |
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May-25-11
 | | Sokrates: <patzer2:> <...with Gelfand's recent display of ability to keep it close and wait for a mistake, he could prove to be a dangerous opponent for Anand in a long classical match.> I agree with you. One shouldn't underestimate an old fox like Gelfand. He is a an old warrior on the chess-field, and I think he will use all his psychological capability to make it as tough as possible for Anand. True, according to statistics and previous games, Anand has a clear edge, but they have never met under the special conditions of a long serious match. I think Anand wins in the end, but not easily, not easily. |
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May-25-11
 | | wordfunph: from TWIC..
Boris Gelfand
I was lucky I got a position which I knew and I liked in the opening. Black slightly squeezed and that's the main problem. Alexander tried to find counter-play with putting the Rook to h5 with a threat. I think I played pretty well and after mistake Rb5 even he let me play Qe2 and e4 I think the position is lost. f5 was necessary, maybe I'm better after h5, hard to say. But I think statistically my chances were very good because I think it was the first victory by white in these matches, so it was very unlikely that there would be no victories by white in such a cycle. Alexander Grischuk
White played an absolutely great game, it started with a novelty b3 which made my position cramped and I had to find this manoeuvre with Ra5-h5 to find any counter-play. But then Boris found an amazing concept with this f4, just giving up the pawn, it didn't even cross my mind this idea. And then I thought, like, I have extra pawn, better pawn structure, white squares are weak, at first I thought, but then I realised that I'm just completely lost. And yes I think it was much better to play f5 to not allow white this pawn avalanche in the centre but still after h5 I don't really trust in black position. I think white will attack, attack, attack after h5. Like Rook to g1, something then exchange queens and then in the endgame Bd5 he will just get an endgame with an extra exchange. http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne... |
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| May-25-11 | | Chessinfinite: Congratulations ! to Gelfand. This will be a very seriously contested match between two veterans :) ...and decently played i think. We won't hear any shenanigans, or Gelfand trying pshycological methods to disturb Anand... It might backfire as it did for Short ...lol the would be next Fischer pretender got thrashed after shooting his mouth off.. LOL |
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| May-25-11 | | kia0708: <And then I thought, like, I have extra pawn, better pawn structure, white squares are weak, at first I thought, but then I realised that I'm just completely lost. - Grischuk> very interesting ! |
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| May-26-11 | | M.D. Wilson: Gris, a poker strategy, all for nothing. Well done, Boris. Good luck in 2012; you're going to need it. |
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May-26-11
 | | kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtbv... |
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| May-26-11 | | Albertan: I had the chess programs Deep Fritz 12 and Hiarcs 13.2 MP (Deep Hiarcs) analyze this game for 2 hours on my quad core computer.These programs found exactly where Grischuk made his errors in this game.
I have added comments to this analysis and posted this analysis to my blog at: http://albertan1956.blogspot.com/20... using Chessviewer Deluxe. I hope you drop by and play through this analysis. |
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May-26-11
 | | lost in space: This is not a kings indian defence als stated from CG.com. It is the fiancetto variation of the grünfeld defence |
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| May-26-11 | | Albertan: <lost in space: This is not a kings> <indian defence als stated from CG.com.> <It is the fiancetto variation of the> <grünfeld defence> Yes Lost in Space you certainly are correct! |
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May-26-11
 | | lost in space: Playing trough the game again I asked myself were Grishuck went wrong. It is clear that 32...Qc7 was a blunder, but my impression was, that the mistake was earlier. When Grishuk played 17...Rh5 I had the impression that this move is very commital. He either has to win something on the kingside or the rock has a long way back into the game (nedds time and this can be sued from white as happend in th game) The chances that black can increase the pressure move by move on the kingside is low; the knights on c6 and b6 are far away from the kingside and can not be activated, as Black has no pawn center to be used as a shield for the own pieces (moving to the kingside behind this shield). Yesterday in the evening "ask" my silicon monster and he sees 17...Rh5 as o.k. (0,00), but I disagreeas as mentioned before. Why not 17...Qd7 18. Bb2 Rea8 19. Ra1 Rxa1 20. Rxa1 Rxa1 21. Bxa1 Nd5 with a o.k. position for Black? (analyse done without computer, so you may find mistakes and have the opportunity to improve the line)  click for larger view |
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| May-26-11 | | KingV93: Looks more like a Grunfeld than a Kings Indian to me and while I'm certainly not going to try to tell Alexander Grischuck how to play chess I didn't like Blacks position by about move 13. That being said I did like the h8-a5-h5 idea but felt he should've continued with it and created some complications by capturing the h4 earlier....Yes, I know it's without a doubt easily refuted and haven't seen just how bad it is using Fritz but my thinking is more along the lines of 'in for a penny...in for a pound' Congrats to Boris Gelfand, he's gonna get a shot at the World Championship and I hope he makes it interesting by playing waaay over the presumed expectation of him getting smashed by Anand. |
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May-26-11
 | | Richard Taylor: Exchanging his black B was wrong. But such is chess. Sad for Grishuk. Congratulations to Boris Gelfand! |
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May-26-11
 | | kingscrusher: <lost in space> Actually the Kings Indian defence doesn't need strictly d6 to be played does it?! Therefore if you go from the very last move of the game, to the first until your position matches a theoretical position, I think it could be either Kings Indian or Gruenfeld - it depends what position is matched with first. Openings do transpose into each other. |
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| May-26-11 | | kia0708: Your analisis is very interesting. Thank you !
<I have added comments to this analysis and posted this analysis to my blog at:
http://albertan1956.blogspot.com/20... using Chessviewer Deluxe. I hope you drop by and play through this analysis.> |
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| May-26-11 | | LIFE Master AJ: I just saw this game today, I was busy all day yesterday ... I just (quickly) played through the moves. My first impression was Black's position was very fragile, he was always vulnerable to a Pawn fork on d5. He lost a lot of time with his "wild Rook" ... flailing about on the 4th rank. Also, Black's position looked much worse, but 32...Qc7 did not look quite right. (I would have to analyze with the computer to come up with something better ... maybe Black was already lost?) Just my thoughts ... Dr. John Perciballi and I have played over these "fianchetto Grunfeld's" at chess club, my knowledge of this line is extremely limited. |
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| May-26-11 | | Nf3em: Both players followed exactly the same move as in their 1st encounter (Gelfand vs Grischuk, 2009, World Blitz) up to move 10... a5 and instead of 11.d5, Gelfand moved 11.Qe2 ... and they followed the theory up to move 12... Be6; the move 13.b3 probably is Gelfand's preparation but who knows? (only Gelfand); play continued with Grischuk taking the opportunity to attack showcased by the Rook lift on the a-file and then swing it to the h-file (the same strategy Gelfand use in his Italian Game last year if I'm not mistaken); the crucial point, IMO, is the was in the position below: click for larger view<position after 20.Qf2> Here, Grischuk played 20... Bxh4, bye bye Gruenfeld Bishop. Later in the game, Gelfand even declined an exchange sac by Grischuk and instead concentrate on freeing his DSB which doesn't have a counterpart due to that 20... Bxh4. And finally, on move 27, the DSB took control of the long a1-h8 diagonal which is normally a territory owned by Black's B/g7 ...  click for larger viewat move 29, the DSB was kicked by 29... f6
 click for larger view<position after 30.Ba1 ...> Here, Grischuk made the 2nd major mistake, untimely Rook trade (maybe already due to time trouble) 30... Rc5 31.Rxc5 bxc5
which allowed this Queen sortie
32.Qb5 ...
 click for larger view32... Qc7 33.Rxb3 Nxc6 34.e5 Nd4 35.Qc4+ 1-0 |
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| May-26-11 | | fab4: 18Nh4 and 19 f4.. Did Gelfand know all this before? The d5 square. The game hung around this for quite a while.! |
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| May-26-11 | | AVRO38: This is a Neo-Grunfeld. CG got it right the first time. |
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| May-26-11 | | bronkenstein: <18Nh4 and 19 f4.. Did Gelfand know all this before? > http://www.chessintranslation.com/2... , and i believe that this part gives you the answer : < Boris Gelfand: The line seen today was well-known to me. It was played a lot at the last Olympiad in Khanty-Mansiysk, and Black won some beautiful games there. After the Olympiad, I sat down with Maxim Rodshtein one day to study that variation, and Sasha [Alexander] Huzman was with us as well. I remember 11.Bg4 was a cunning idea to tempt the pawn to h3. It seems absurd, but in some lines you win a tempo with Qc8. We managed to think up the antidote 13. b3. That´s not thought to give you much in the given system, as Black can open the a-file. But as h2-h3 has already been played the bishop on e6 ends up cut-off, and Black has some trouble with counterplay. It seems to me Alexander chose the most ambitious plan Ra5-h5, in order to switch onto the counterattack. If you play passively then Black will simply run out of moves. I think we´d looked at the idea somewhere in our analysis , playing Nh4 and f4, limiting my opponent´s options, after 21.Nd5 was very strong, but of course I wasn´t going to take the exchange. Nevertheless, it seems to me that if Black played 23.f5 instead of 23.Rb5 then I´m not even sure if White would have been better or not . it´s a very complex position. I have to play 24. h5 and go for an attack. Of course I´ll never take the rook on d5. While after 23.Rb5 the pawns started to move and I think White already has an enormous advantage in that position.> . |
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