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Mikhail Tal vs J M Ripley
"The Not-Talented-Enough Mr. Ripley" (game of the day Mar-07-12)
Simul 1974  ·  Sicilian Defense: Richter-Rauzer. Neo-Modern Variation (B67)  ·  1-0
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Mar-07-12
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  offramp: <ivchoc: Should have been "The Tal-ed Mr Ripley">

Leave out THE for:
"Tal Ended Mr Ripley".

Mar-07-12
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  whiteshark: <rilkefan: <the tal-ended mr ripley> Brilliant.>

Yes, indeed! :)

Mar-07-12  Bobby Spassky: Dear sofouuk:

"... and, for entertainment purposes, here's the recommended follow-up: 27 exf6 Nxd2+
28 Bxd2 Rxf6
29 Rxf6 gxf6
30 Bxh6 Qc5
31 g7 Ke7
32 Rf1 Rc8 3
33 g8=N+!

with Bxc8 to follow. i'll bet he was extremely cross :)"

I would expect black to play Rxg8 instead.

Mar-07-12  Penguincw: Amazing. A rook, bishop and pawn are not enough to outplay a queen in the middlegame.
Mar-07-12  timhortons: if ripley won!

believe it or not!

he won!

Mar-07-12  hugogomes: he won what? experience?
Mar-07-12  erniecohen: <<sofouuk> it took rybka 6 min 59 sec (on my asthmatic abacus, admittedly) to realise that 27 exf6 (+3.19, eventually) was better than 27 Qf2 (+1.92). i wonder how long tal needed>

It takes Houdini 1.5 about 1 second, and about 15 seconds to converge to an accurate evaluation.

Mar-07-12
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  playground player: <Phony Benoni> I used to read a lot of Patricia Highsmith, but eventually she got too weird for me.
Mar-07-12
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  Nosnibor: The late John Ripley was a very talented player and a few years ago I recall him beating Mark Hebden on board one for his county against Leicestershire.So all you kibitzers should not deride him for losing to one of the best simul players in the World. I also played him in the Major Open in 1969 at Rhyl.It proved to be quite an entertaining game :- White: J K Robinson Black J M Ripley French Defence. 1e4 e6 2d4 d5 3Nc3 Nc6 4Nf3 Nf6 5Bg5 Be7 6e5 Ne4 7Bxe7 Qxe7 8Bd3 Qb4 90-0 Nxc3 10bxc3 Qxc3 11Rb1 Qa3 12Qd2 Qe7 13c3 0-0 14Ng5 g6 15f4 Na5 16Rf3 Kg7 17Rg3 f5 18exf6+ Qxf6 19Nxh7 Kxh7 20Rxg6 Qxg6 21Bxg6+ Kxg6 22Qd3+ Kg7 23Qg3+ Kf6 24f5 exf5 25Qxc7 Nc6 26Re1 Be6 27Qxb7 Rac8 28g3 Ne7 29Qb4 Rc6 30c4 Rxc4 31Qd6 Rc6 32Rxe6+ Black resigns 1-0
Mar-07-12  sledgehammer: The Tal-ended sounds better to me :))
Mar-07-12  JonathanJ: how about: tal ended mr ripley?
Mar-07-12
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  kevin86: Believe it or not,the loser was a queen ahead for a bishop-and lost miserably...

I'm Tal-in' on you...

Mar-07-12  th3doctor: Yes! My pun got used! I was actually thinking about going with "he's just too talented, Mr Ripley" for this.
Mar-07-12  drnooo: actually it did become a move but long before THAT dumb movie with Matt Damon there was a much much better one, done right: the difference between the two films was about the same space as the talents of Tal and his opponent
Mar-07-12  drnooo: furthermore, the dvd of the first film for quite a while was done extremely poorly: dubbed, with very bad voices, but now seems to be available on youtube if it has not been taken down avoid at all costs the matt damon version, its horrendous compared to the Clement film
Mar-07-12
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  David2009: The talented Mr Ripley: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...


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Crafty Endgame Simulator defends differently. Here's an interactive link to Tal's combination starting from the diagram: http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t.... Over to you to convert the theoretical +3 advantage <sofouuk: [snip] 27 exf6 (+3.19, eventually)> to a win. The robot counter-attacks vigorously, attempting a mating atttack to exploit its temporary superiority on the Queen side. Be warned!

Mar-07-12
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  Nosnibor: (David2009) I believe that Black should win this game by playing 28..Rxf6 29Rxf6 gxf6 30Bxh6 and now Qc4!and not 30..Qc5? if 31b3 Qe2 32Rg1 Qh2 or 33Rc1 Ke7 34g7 Qg2 or 31g7 Ke7 32g8=Q Rxg8 39Bxg8 a4 and it is not easy to find an adequate defence for white.
Mar-07-12  Gambit86: Impressive in a simul, Ripley seems to be a talented player. J N Sugden vs J M Ripley, 1967
Mar-07-12  karnak64: That Mr. Tal: he just kept giving and giving and giving ...
Mar-07-12
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  David2009: Tal vs J M Ripley, 1974 postscript: <Nosnibor: (David2009) I believe that Black should win this game by playing 28..Rxf6 29 Rxf6 gxf6 30 Bxh6 and now Qc4! and not 30..Qc5? if 31 b3 Qe2 32 Rg1 Qh2 or 33 Rc1 Ke7 34g7 Qg2 or 31 g7 Ke7 32g8=Q Rxg8 39Bxg8 a4 and it is not easy to find an adequate defence for white.> Saying Black should win is going too far, but I agree that finding the win for White - or even saving the game! - against Crafty ES is far from easy. The critical position with White to play after 30...Qc4! is


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Black is threatening the unpleasant a4-a3 and mate on b2 if White does not bestir himself. Having tried various losing lines similar to <Nosnibor>'s, I had to fire up Fritz 12 to find the solution. Rather than give it here I will give the key move only: 31.Rg1!! deferring queening the Pawn and getting that all-important defensive-aggressive tempo (a key idea is Rg4! after suitable preparation hitting the b4 Pawn). The ES duly replies 31...a4 and now the win is not too difficult to find: as a hint, it starts with one of <Nosnibor>'s 31st White moves but with a critical, and all-important, difference in the favorable position of the R on g1.

I think if I had been Black I would feel proud of my play and that my board fee had been very well spent. Chapeau! (to both players).

Mar-07-12  srag: After move thirteen Black does not seem to be so bad, quite the contrary, or am I suffering from chess blindness?
Mar-07-12  sofouuk: <Bobby Spassky>in this line black could play 33 ... Rxg8, but after 34 Bxg8 i think the R+2B will beat the Q more easily than (after 33 ... K moves 34 Bxc8 Qxc8) R+B+N would

things are more interesting however after the <Nosnibor>/ <David2009> line: 30 ... Qc4 31 g7 Ke7 32 Rg1! and now rybka has 32 ... a4 33 b3 Qh4 34 Bc1 a3 35 g8=Q Rxg8 36 Rxg8 Qf2


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white is in absolutely no danger of losing but it would be far from straightforward to win from here over the board

Mar-07-12  sofouuk: <erniecohen>not sure what version of houdini you're running, but mine takes even longer to find 27 exf6 than rybka did. clear the memory banks and set the position up afresh, and im pretty sure you'll get a very different result
Mar-07-12
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  zakkzheng: a good game I should say
Mar-08-12
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  offramp: For me the most amazing thing is that the queen is given up with check.
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